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Welcome to new forums platform!

Sep 29, 2010 8:03AM PDT

Hello everyone!

We are now live with the new forums platform! Woo hoo!!

At a glance you may not notice much of a difference, as we've retained most of the look and feel and feature set of our legacy forums system. However, we are using a completely new in house forums platform.

So what does this mean exactly? This new platform will give us a lot more flexibility to grow the forums, not only in terms of scale, but also for adding new features, which was a challenge in our previous platform. This is a huge win for us!

While we didn't change a whole lot in the forums user experience, here are the most notable changes that you may have noticed already:

-- Every submission form is now in line! Anything from creating a new discussion or reply, to reporting offensive posts or emailing a friend are all in line or appear in a modal form (a form which opens directly on top of the browser page). What this means is that you no longer have to be taken through several pages to submit content, it all happens on the same page you are currently on.

-- There are now true permalink pages for all forum posts. If you click on the chain link icon within any post, you will be taken to a page with that specific post only--which allows for easier referencing.

-- Logging into the forums will be through a modal window rather than going to a separate login/registration page.

-- No more flat and tree views, just the hybrid view, which is the combination of both threaded and tree view. Some notes about the hybrid view:

-- You'll be able to choose to either view the discussion thread in the expanded or collapsed view (the link to select your preference is located directly below the first post in the gray bar). Once you select the view you like, this setting will be saved automatically as a cookie in your browser. As long as that preference cookie is not deleted, you will remain in the view you've selected. By default, everyone will see the expanded view, until you select collapsed. With the move to the new platform, we are no longer storing the forum views preferences for each individual and we will be eliminating the forum preference page all together.

-- When viewing the thread in the collapsed view, you can expand each post individually by clicking on the "+" plus icon (located on the left of the each subject line), and clicking the "-" minus icon will collapse the post. Expanding or collapsing individual posts will not change your default setting.

-- The first post in a discussion thread will always remain expanded regardless of which view it is in, and it will remain expanded at the top of the forums thread even if you paginate through the thread (you will see the thread starter on Page 2, Page 3, etc.).

-- Regardless which view is selected, 30 posts in the thread will always be displayed on one page. And pagination of the thread is the same as in our legacy platform.

-- Search has been completely overhauled, and there's no more advanced search page. You will no longer be able to search within a forum or thread. While these were great features, usage was minimal. We also did a lot of consulting with our search team and came up with the better solution to give you search results that would make the most sense.

-- The permalink, report offensive post, and email a friend feature will be displayed with icons only (we have removed the text alongside of them) and if you hover over those icons it will display text to tell you what each feature is for.

-- Tracked discussion email updates will be hourly rather than immediately and it will be a digest of all updated threads rather than being individual emails sent. While we did want to keep it as immediately, the new system didn't have the flexibility for it without additional engineering work. Eventually, on Phase 2 of the forums redesign, we will have more customizable options for tracked discussion emails, like frequency, html, etc.

Here are some know issues about the Forum tracked discussion emails in the new platform and we will be working through these bugs.

-- Your tracked discussion from the legacy forums will be migrated to the new platform and available to you on 9/30/2010. You should not have a problem tracking discussions in the new platform now.

-- Tracked discussion notification emails when sent to you will have the subject line of "CNET Reviews Alerts"

-- Links in tracked discussion emails will only take you to the thread and not anchor you down to the updated post.

-- The realtime activity page isn't as slick as it was. In the given amount of time to get that out we had to punt on some of the fluffy cool cosmetic stuff like ajaxing in the new incoming posts. In the new version, when a post gets submitted to the forums, rather than the post being dynamically displayed on the page, there will be an auto page refresh. There is also no indication if the post is a new topic or a reply. In the near future, we hope to make this forum feature even better.

I think I have covered most of the changes that will impact you on our new platform. Our team has spent many months and countless days getting this to where it is today and I'm very thankful for their dedication and hard work. I feel like this is a whole new beginning for the forums with many more great and exciting things to come down the line.

Please give it a spin and if you happen to find or discover anything quirky or buggy in our forums, please do not hesitate to let me know in this thread. I also welcome any feedback that you may have in regards to the slight feature changes above. Good or bad, I'd like to hear it.

Thank you all for your time and your continued dedication to the CNET Forums!

Cheers!
-Lee

Note: This post was edited by forum moderator Edited on 09/29/2010 on 3:11 PM PT

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Hi welcome to the forums!
Oct 7, 2010 2:46AM PDT

To post a question, start here:

http://forums.cnet.com

Pick a forum from the directory which is the most appropriate for your topic/question.

Go to that forum, look for the bright red "Create a new discussion" button on the right hand side of the page and click on that. You should see a submission form appear in front of you.

Post your question in the form and submit it. That's it!

Just remember: If you're asking for technical help, please be sure to include all your system info, including operating system, model number, and any other specifics related to the problem. Also please exercise your best judgment when posting in the forums--revealing personal information such as your e-mail address, telephone number, and address is not recommended.

Let me know if that works for you.

Cheers!
-Lee

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hi
Oct 10, 2010 6:20PM PDT

thank you very much

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new forums platform
Oct 12, 2010 7:20PM PDT

Good luck.

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New Forum - suggestion
Oct 15, 2010 12:31PM PDT

Excellent Lee, the looks may not be too different, but the changes are likely to be very beneficial for users.

If you can include a "search a topic" window, your huge resources could be very profitably used more quickly by users.

Greetings & Good wishes, Ashit Sarkar, Bangalore

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Not sure you've seen it
Oct 15, 2010 10:22PM PDT

but there is a Search option at the top of the forums, in the black header bar.

Enter your search query, click the Q button then in the new page you can refine your search if you wish.

Mark

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Mark.. It Seems..
Oct 16, 2010 10:29PM PDT

It seems both Donna and I are getting the same results, when refining our search. Would you happen to know why? Devil

Carol

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Search.
Oct 16, 2010 10:38PM PDT

Hi Carol.

No I've not seen that, Happy

I have just found in the Forum search page where I can refine my search to Today, or 'Last 7 days' or further back. It's in the left hand column. That's helping me a little, but it's not like old days is it.

Mark

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Thanks, Mark
Oct 17, 2010 12:32AM PDT

You may (or may not) have seen where Donna posted elsewhere, and noted the left-hand column never yielded any results.

"Sorry, there are no results found for [keyword here]" << == Me too. Me too. Sad

It may just be, we're both entering the "same type" keywords.

As one of the "not seen lately" mods used to say..

'And life goes on'....

Carol

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(NT) Can you give a keyword/URL example?
Oct 17, 2010 12:46AM PDT
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One Example..
Oct 17, 2010 1:53AM PDT

Hi John..

If I enter "Avira AntiVir Rescue System" into the search field, it indicates (on the left) there are 26 entries at the SV&S forum. When I click on the forum ...

'Sorry, there are no found for "Avira AntiVir Rescue System" '.

Carol

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John. I've Been Enlightened..
Oct 17, 2010 2:13AM PDT

When I click on any forum, other than SV&S, I do see results.

I never tried the other forums before. If Donna and I are searching to find, if we're duplicating each other's past news items, there's no need for us to search elsewhere.

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FYI: It's a URL encoding issue...
Oct 17, 2010 11:38PM PDT

A bug has been filed for this, so the broken filters should be fixed next week.

John

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(NT) Thank You!
Oct 18, 2010 2:08AM PDT
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You can customize that a bit...
Oct 17, 2010 12:44AM PDT

Looking at the simplified URL:

forums.cnet.com/1770-5_102-0.html?query=test&searchtype=forums&beginStartDate=20100917&endStartDate=20101017

You can enter a custom date range using the format YYYYMMDD so you're not limited to the predefined day, week, month, and year choices.

The new search isn't perfect, but several little tweaks like that make it much more powerful.

John

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I'm glad that's the simplified version
Oct 17, 2010 5:00AM PDT

I don't think I could have coped with the complicated version. Devil

Mark

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Just realised that Thread Notifications are arriving late
Oct 22, 2010 12:11PM PDT

When I track a discussion I recieive the alert much later after the post was submitted.

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I believe
Oct 23, 2010 5:55AM PDT

they are despatched in bulk every hour.

That could be why.

Mark

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I believe you're right, Mark...
Oct 23, 2010 8:16AM PDT

They are sent out to all members once an hour, though enhancements to that are coming Phase II.

John

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(NT) Ok thats good. It would be better if they cam straight away
Oct 23, 2010 10:42AM PDT
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Just a note though
Oct 23, 2010 9:10PM PDT

I was never too worried about the time it took for me to receive tracking emails. If I tracked a discussion then it might be that there would be no further posts in the thread for days, weeks, months, even. So I never expected any immediate response.

Also, I don't have my email software open all the time. I just open the software and check emails 2 or 3 times a day. So there again, it didn't concern me that I didn't get tracking emails immediately.

But that's just me.

Mark

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(NT) And I also get alerts for my own post?
Oct 23, 2010 10:44AM PDT
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Yep...
Oct 23, 2010 12:32PM PDT

The engineers were not able to address that given the deadline, so it's something that will be fixed as part of Phase II.

John

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Actually that may not change.
Oct 25, 2010 7:17AM PDT

Track discussions are actually subscriptions to an RSS feed, so anytime that particular thread you are tracking gets an update whether the post is by you or another member, the email is sent to all users subscribed to it. The system only knows you are subscribed to the thread, but it has no knowledge of who posted to it--so unfortunately you will get an email alert even if you posted to the thread--definitely not ideal.

In our Phase 2 of the forums we'll see if we can change that, but because it's an RSS feed, I'm not too sure there anything that can be done... but we will try.

Thanks!
-Lee

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Lee, about your post
Oct 25, 2010 9:11PM PDT

Your post here Lee;
http://forums.cnet.com/7726-7598_102-5013962.html

That's slightly worrying. You said you are not sure if anything can be done to point tracking emails to the actual post that has been made.

It would be unfortunate if nothing could be done. Consider this thread. Over 80 posts now and when you get a tracking email, (if you are tracking the thread), and click the link, you are taken to the first post.

Where do you go then? "Next Unread" seems to have foibles of it's own so that doesn't always work.

I will be honest, I don't understand RSS and never use it. I don't see how having an RSS component in these forums helps us.

As it stands, tracking emails are pretty much useless in my view and I am now not tracking any threads because of this.

Mark

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I agree...
Oct 25, 2010 11:11PM PDT

Also, it seems like it should be feasible. If the engineers can access the title of the individual reply that has been submitted, I'm surprised the ID of the reply is not also accessible; that would make it possible to link directly to the reply.

It would probably be more work to get the email address of the poster for comparison purposes to avoid notifying the poster about his/her own post, but should still be doable by the service handling the email notifications.

John

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Sorry let me clarify...
Oct 26, 2010 2:40AM PDT

When I posted that reply to John, what I was referring to was member ac1818 post: "And I also get alerts for my own post?" --that is something we may not be able to fix--but we will try.

As for pointing URLs to the actual post in the tracked emails--you bet I want that fixed! For the exact reason you had described of referring to this thread that is 80+ posts long--I don't want to have to look for it or click "next unread"--I personally just want it to take me to the post immediately. We have bug open for this request already and I'm hoping we can fix that sooner than Phase 2 of the forums.

I apologize if I was unclear. I am definitely in agreement with your point Mark.

Cheers!
-Lee

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Mark, Hi there!
Oct 26, 2010 2:49AM PDT

I forwarded a screen snap of message marking gone bad to Lee. It's broken and I know Lee wants it fixed.

Check your email for something new.
Bob

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Lee, many thanks
Oct 26, 2010 6:11AM PDT

And I apologise for being so negative.

I'm not usually, only when everyone's against me, the whole world, my computer, my bank, my.... Happy

Bob, I got your email.

Mark

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change
Nov 4, 2010 1:36PM PDT

A very particular reforms,"Tracked discussion notification emails" is the best for me.