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We need to invite subhumans such as these...

Apr 5, 2004 11:47AM PDT

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We need to invite subhumans such as these...I agree.
Apr 5, 2004 1:50PM PDT

too bad we have something known as 'due process'.
if arrested with all that incriminating evidence, the death penalty should be the very least awarded.
a public hanging would be preferable, televised, world wide, naturally.
david williams

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Re: We need to invite subhumans such as these...I agree.
Apr 5, 2004 11:00PM PDT

C'mon, David.

>>a public hanging would be preferable, televised, world wide, naturally.<<
I can't think of a better way to let the Muslim extremists win and bring on an unbelievably destructive religious war between Islam and Christianity. To be Christian (and human) we have to treat with respect and dignity even those who have personally done nothing to deserve that treatment.

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
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Dont you think...
Apr 6, 2004 5:58PM PDT

that both DW's and DE's posts are examples of the following extracted from the ToS?

"The use of inappropriate or offensive language is not permitted in these forums. Inappropriate or offensive language includes, but is not limited to, any language or content that is sexually oriented, sexually suggestive or abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, profane, hateful, or that contains racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable material of any kind."

I find the "C'mon David" very mild in this case...

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The British have the right idea.
Apr 5, 2004 9:12PM PDT

They actually find the terrorist and arrest them. What a unique idea!

Cowboys and Indians are out of date. Don't work no more, as proven in Iraq.

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Re: The British have the right idea.
Apr 5, 2004 11:05PM PDT

Hi, Rosalie.

Much of this mess is the fault of the British, for how badly they handled the Middle East and the Arabian peninsula when they held sway there in the late 19th and first half of the 20th Centuries.

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Goodness Gracious Me
Apr 5, 2004 11:46PM PDT

And there went 1,400 years of history of interaction between Christians and Muslims.

Get a grip DK - cause what you said is utter tripe. I again request members to read at least a little of the Crusades etc.

Ian

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LOL, you really miss Dale don't you? ;-)
Apr 6, 2004 8:56AM PDT

So do I. What the heck happened to him?

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Re: LOL, you really miss Dale don't you? ;-)
Apr 6, 2004 11:45PM PDT

Hi, Rosalie.

I honestly don't know, and worry a bit. I should probably e-mail him... Speaking of which, has anyone heard from Ed? I have e-amiled him and got no response -- it's been almost a week since his last post, which wasn't in any way a remarkable one.

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Oh really Dave?
Apr 7, 2004 10:13AM PDT

And our coalition with the U.S in Iraq has got nothing to do with this?
You really come up with some weird ideas sometimes.

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The mess? Yes...
Apr 7, 2004 11:07AM PDT
"And our coalition with the U.S in Iraq has got nothing to do with this?" - Steve Gargini

Nothing to do with what? The mess? Yes it does! It sure does...
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Re:The mess? Yes...
Apr 7, 2004 12:28PM PDT

It's no point blaming Britain for something they should or shouldn't have done 100 years ago, or whatever, the current animosity of al-quida(sp) towards us is because our british forces are out there in Iraq fighting al-quida sympathisers.
Whether I am in favour of our action or not, doesn't change what we are doing out there.
I stand by what I said to Blake in the old forum, before it vanished, I wanted to see the inspectors exhaust their actions before we took any further actions ourselves. I said we will have egg on our faces if no weapons are found, and it's worse than egg, the terrorists were plotting to explode chemical weapons in Britain. British intelligence some how cracked the plot this time, but next time we may not be so lucky.

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Who helped Al Qaeida in the past?
Apr 7, 2004 1:29PM PDT
"... the current animosity of al-quida(sp) towards us is because our british forces are out there in Iraq fighting al-quida sympathisers." - Steve Gargini

The fact is that the USSR fought the Talibans already in 1979. In the name of democracy (read anti-communism) Ronald Reagan sent CIA agents to help the Talibans fighting the USSR. And though I have no evidence about it right off hand, I think his big ally (and probably the only democratically elected) Maggie Thatcher, was involved in one way or the other. I think you should look at what British intelligence contributed with in the early 80's while the war between Afghanistan and the USA took place.

The reason I bring this up to you is that from what I understand from your posts lately, you must have supported Thatcher who was just a ?copy? of Reagan whose copy is Bush in too many ways.
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Britain has never supported any terrorist organisation Charlie
Apr 11, 2004 7:30AM PDT

I tried to answer this before but gateway errors prevented me.
We have had far too much on our plate with the IRA terrorists to ever consider supporting any terrorist organisation. In fact an Irabian terrorist organisation actually supplied the IRA with weapons and explosives to use against us.
So you can see how off target your remark is.

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Oh, and one more thing...
Apr 7, 2004 1:49PM PDT

Did you know that we have an airport named after the one who sponsored the responsible organization for the attacks of the WTC and the trains in Spain and the Pentagon and many more attacks on innocent people? It's called Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport!

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outrageous
Apr 8, 2004 5:38AM PDT

Whether you like him or not (or were even in the US and/or knew who he was then or not), whether you think he was a good or bad president, no matter all that, it doesn not justify using indirect means and insinuation that his actions then are responsible for the 9/11 attacks on the WTC. Again trying to blame the US for attacks against the US.

And yes, you did

the one who sponsored the responsible organization for the attacks of the WTC and the trains in Spain and the Pentagon

Disgusting.

RogerNC

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NT - Did Ronald Sponsor Al Qaeida thru the CIA?
Apr 8, 2004 6:34AM PDT

`?

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Re:NT - Did Ronald Sponsor Al Qaeida thru the CIA?
Apr 12, 2004 2:19AM PDT

Do you really hate the USA so much?

That everything has to be our fault? sure we've made mistakes and questionable in hindsight decisions.

But I still find your attempt to link blame for WTC destruction on 9/11 to Reagan disgusting and repulsive.

Not surprising though, I can't remember you approving of anything the USA has done. It would seem you want to change the USA into something totally different from what is has been and is. Sad. Even if not perfect, we're not the devil by a long shot. It's wrong to forget the good as much as it's wrong to forget the bad.

RogerNC

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I am not a yank but I agree with all that you said there Roger
Apr 12, 2004 4:52AM PDT

It seems incredible that a post of mine was removed today which shared the same sentiment.
It appears that a left wing moderator is currently going on a "remove the Bush supporter" rampage.

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You still fail to answer the question...
Apr 12, 2004 6:01AM PDT

Did Reagan support Al Qaeida thru the CIA, yes or no? That's all you have to answer...

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OK, try this, Reagan left office in end of 1889, Al Qaeda was formed in 1989
Apr 12, 2004 5:18PM PDT

I don't have numbers of $ for 1998 to Afghanistan mujahedeen to help them fight Soviet invasion. But even we gave them money, do you really equate money then to being responsible for the Twin Towers? Twisted logic. So no, I don't think Reagan supported Al Qaeda. Some of the same people went from one group to the other, but still not the same organization .

In approximately 1989, bin Laden and co-defendant Muhammad Atef founded "Al Qaeda," " an international terrorist group ... which was dedicated to opposing non-Islamic governments with force and violence."

* "One of the principal goals of Al Qaeda was to drive the United States armed forces out of Saudi Arabia (and elsewhere on the Saudi Arabian peninsula) and Somalia by violence."


PBS link



Fortieth President
1981-1989

Official US page

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Reagan may have a lot of dust in his head...
Apr 12, 2004 7:53PM PDT

but I didn't think he was THAT old! LOL!

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So I made a typo 1889 instead of 1989, why did you ignore the points
Apr 13, 2004 1:12AM PDT

of timing and it's reltionship to your question of did Reagan support Al qaeda?

No and yes you always demanding, like a trail attorney wanting to make a witness's testimony sound one way when the witness means another.

Can you address the question of timing and what Reagan supported? since you've implied he was responsible for the WTC destruction?

RogerNC

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Now that you have Charlie in a corner Roger he
Apr 13, 2004 10:49AM PDT

Chickens out - just like a few others in this forum.
The sign of a weak person is the inability to say sorry when they are wrong. Now let me see. . . . .

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Re:Now that you have Charlie in a corner Roger he
Apr 13, 2004 3:12PM PDT

Well, sometimes there's just not much to reply is there.

We actually supported the fighters in Afganistan against the Russians. I remember news stories on how tough they were and refused to surrender to the Russian troops.

Even if had been the group called Al qaeda way back then, that did not justify him linking Reagan to the destruction of the WTC.

He sounded like the Reagan airport honor was an honor to the destruction by the terrorists.

I bet everyone here knows people that have befriended others until they got what they wanted, then turned on them. Groups of people behave the same way. And it's honest to admit that probably the main reason we helped them as much as we did was using them to fight the cold war with USSR.

IT still doesn't excuse his insult by implying that we caused the attack on ourselves. It's another way of saying it's our own fault they want to kill all of us.

Nonsense, utterly insulting nonsense.

RogerNC

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What has this airport got to do with me in Britain? NT
Apr 11, 2004 7:32AM PDT

NT

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You may have misunderstood it Steve...
Apr 11, 2004 1:23PM PDT

but this thread ain't about you being in Britain...

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Your comment doesn't make any sense in reference to my post
Apr 11, 2004 3:31PM PDT

Apart from the fact that the terrorists would not have been able to do what they did on 9/11 without an airport.

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I looked at my post again charlie and cannot
Apr 11, 2004 3:40PM PDT

see what Ronald Regan airport has got anything to do with British intelligence, and being attacked.
Charlie, you obviously support terrorist scum, but please don't try and wash it off onto me.

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As I said...
Apr 11, 2004 10:34PM PDT

it wasn't me who supported the "terrorist scum" it was Reagan who financed them. And I would be surprised if Thatcher wasn't involved in that financing one way or the other...

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I haven't got the foggiest idea about Regan
Apr 12, 2004 3:52AM PDT

But I know for sure that Thatcher would have nothing to do with terrorists. The Russian leaders called her "the Iron Lady" and if she did support any group anywhere in the world she wasn't frightened to say so.
But she hated terrorism. The IRA attempted to blow her up in a Brighton hotel during a Conservative party conference. No Charlie, she wouldn't support terrorism.
I will not be making any more replies to this subject. You can believe me or not, and frankly I don't care.