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We are so lucky here and we don't realize most of the time

by Diana Forum moderator / June 5, 2004 9:43 AM PDT
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Re:We are so lucky here and we don't realize most of the time

Though spousal physical and mental abuse occurs here, it is against the law, and is not condoned by our society.

It took a while but females got the right to vote, and are free to pursue chosen careers. I have never felt "unequal".

There are pockets of ignorance still, though they have grown smaller through the efforts of dedicated people.

If memory serves, civil war destroyed what had been a country with higher standards.

India has become a center for our out-sourcing technical jobs, yet the attitudes as described continue to exist.

Yes, Diana, we are indeed lucky!

Angeline
click here to email semods4@yahoo.com

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Re:We are so lucky here and we don't realize most of the time

I have a brother who left his OB/GYN practice in Columbus, Ohio to become a medical missionary in the Congo. He has spoken much of the lack of value that women hold in most of African society. The surgical proceedure mentioned here is one that he also performs happily as it goes a long way to restore a woman's dignity though it does not solve the long term problems. There is more that goes with these stories. If folks don't mind, I will link to Mike's site. Believe me, what you see here is mile compared to what he shares when he returns to the states.

http://www.pcusa.org/missionconnections/profiles/haningerm.htm

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Re:Re:We are so lucky here and we don't realize most of the time
by Paul C / June 5, 2004 12:13 PM PDT

Steve,

The next time you contact your brother, ask him if he ever spoke to a Presbyterian church group in Indiana. His name sounds very familiar for some reason...

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Mission intinerary

Mike and Nancy we in the US from August of 2003 and returned to the Congo this past February. They are based in Columbus, Ohio (my city as well) and did some extensive traveling and speaking at churches in many states. If you care to give me the name of your church, I can E-mail Mike and ask. I know they put together a video presentation of their mission work as I helped with some of the computer hardware issues they were having. Mike is very passionate about his work there and has some gut wrenching stories that I doubt he shares during his US visits. We (my wife and I) were able to get the two of them to do their presentation at our church which is Roman Catholic. It was very moving and made most of our US gripes seem petty. The link has a few pictures and maybe you will recognize them.

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I know what you mean, but wouldn't fortunate be a better word than luck?
by Kiddpeat / June 5, 2004 12:33 PM PDT

I don't think we're blessed with random events. I think we need to be thankful for our blessings.

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Re: wouldn't 'fortunate' be a better word than 'lucky?' -- No...

Hi, KP.

No, "lucky" is precisely the right word. When Warren Buffett (the "Sage of Omaha" and the nation's 2nd-richest man with a personal net worth of about $35 billion) was asked to what he attributed his great success, he said "First, I won the lottery -- I was born in America." The world's population today is estimated around 6.4 billion, of whom roughly 0.3 billion live in the US -- about a 5% chance.

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
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Sorry Dave, but I believe in a sovereign God who doesn't

stand on the sidelines wringing His hands helplessly. I wouldn't consider the opinion of the 'world's richest man' authoritative regarding the nature of life and reality. America's blessings didn't occur by chance. They occurred because a lot of men and women were profoundly affected by good values. Those values have their roots in the Bible.

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Re: Sorry Dave, but I believe in a sovereign God who doesn't

Hi, KP.

I believe in God too, but what did the poor starving baby in Bangladesh do to deserve his/her fate? I do not believe in predestination; I believe God CAN but usually does not intervene in human affairs, because if He does, then He can't be all-good; there's simply too much misery and evil in the world. And don't give me "original sin;" that was washed away "once and for all in the blood of the Lamb."

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
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Re: Thanks Diana, we all need a reality check now & then...nt
by Mary Kay / June 6, 2004 1:39 AM PDT

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