Watched Trump at his "press conference"

I'm tired of watching these elite media types do little more than flex their own muscles.

By "elite media types" you mean the "news/fake news"?

Fake news?....WHO would start that story?

irresistible force meets an immovable object?

Well, I'll bet she's kicking herself now...For not getting the term copyrighted..She could make a fortune off of TheRUMP.

CIC?

Crybaby In Chief?

she's kicking herself is because she headed up the cheerleading squad for Trump to win the nomination because she (and others) believed he was the easiest one to beat and she'd be a shoo-in. Yep, she's definitely the CIC in this case.

Her AND Putin?

Trump?...he got by, with a little help from his friend (Putin)/ and enemies (Hillary) .

RE:Yep, she's definitely the CIC in this case.

It didn't look like HER on the boob tube yesterday...looked more like TheRUMP, she would never let her hair go like that....and those hand gestures of his.....

.Donald "I inherited a mess" Trump.....


Don't worry Donnie, I have no doubt you'll leave a bigger mess.

the Russian connection even though there has been NO proof or even a little bit of evidence that Putin was able to move any votes to Trump? Good grief.....

And yes, with some of her tweets she's been crying pretty much......she's mostly crawled into the woodwork like the roach she is, and good riddance.

BO claimed during his first campaign that to have a $5T National Debt was un-American and unpatriotic..........and yet he left with four times that amount and nobody says a word....and a world literally in terrorist chaos everywhere you look. Trump had nothing to do with any of that so do you consider that to be a mess HE has inherited? Take your time and really think about how you answer, JP.

He DID say it was $5T even if he got the actual number wrong, BUT it took 43 presidents to get to that point whereas HE doubled it in 8 years ALL BY HIMSELF, and nobody has said a word, even the media, that he was un-American or unpatriotic.

As for the nominal improvement in the unemployment rate....we've already discussed how those numbers are fudged because even the most dishonest reports show that we have the lowest participation rate in the workforce at the very least since Carter's term.  As for the median annual income, most 'normal' families have seen that figure take a hit by nearly $3000 per year since 2008 (and that's blamed on not only businesses not giving raises but also Obamacare).  Families took not only a hit on not getting regular raises and the Obamacare premiums that many were now forced into buying, but those premiums have doubled or tripled in many cases so they are taking triple hits on their spending income.  BO said each family would 'save' $2500 per year in healthcare cost (insurance), but he neglected to add that not only would that be a lie, but that the plans he was forcing on people would have deductibles so high that unless you have a catastrophic illness or injury, you have 'wasted' coverage because you never get to put in a claim in the first place.  How often does a family spend over $12,000 in DEDUCTIBLES EACH YEAR in ADDITION to the outrageous premiums?  And yet that's how each of the Obamacare plans are set up.

So now you agree/admit it didn't QUADRUPLE. Thank you.

RE:ALL BY HIMSELF,

Where were The Republicans?

RE:He DID say it was $5T even if he got the actual number wrong,

HE didn't "get the number wrong" people weren't listening...He said Bush ADDED $5 Trillion...The Debt WAS approx $5T before Bush + approx $5 T under Bush = $10 T That's what Obama inherited

Since Bush was Pres BEFORE Obama AND Bush ADDED slightly over $ 5 TRILLION over HIS term

Bush ADDED $5.849 trillion, a 101 percent increase from the $5.8 trillion debt at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

Obama Added $7.917 trillion, a 68 percent increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of George W. Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

U.S. Debt by President: By Dollar and Percent

Once you're "in debt" the slope gets steep, very quickly...any visions of a $30 Billion "wall"...from someone that is eyeball deep in debt could be a pipe dream.

RE:As for the nominal improvement in the unemployment rate....we've already discussed how those numbers are fudged

So WHEN/IF the "numbers improve" under the rule of TheRUMP...people should/will not be boasting about the unemployment rate dropping?

OR

Is TheRUMP working on a method that will "UNfudge the numbers"?


In the meantime

Thank you for admitting there was an improvement in the numbers UNDER Obama....even IF some disagree with the methodology.....

that any increases in employment are temporary/seasonal jobs that get readjusted downward when the season is over, right? And you DO realize that the majority of the jobs being boasted about by the left are PART-TIME (some people who have TWO part-time jobs get counted TWICE which makes the numbers look even better), right?

when he said he'd not put the huge debt on the backs of our children. What he really meant was that they'd not need to pay back their large student loans. We just didn't get it at the time.

What he really meant was that they'd not need to pay back their large student loans.

EVERYONE?

Is this what you are referring to?

EVERYONE

IF/WHEN

If you suffer from a disability that can be expected to result in your death, is expected to last for 60 months, or has lasted for 60 months, you may be eligible for federal loan discharge under the

Public Service Loan Forgiveness (“PSLF&rdquo allows a current borrower to have the unpaid balance of loans received under the William D. Ford Federal Direct Loan Program forgiven after making 120 qualifying payments on the loans while working full time in public service.

and on and on with "qualifiers" to not repay...

Death seems the easiest way to NOT repay the loan...

permanently and turn control back over to the States and the banks that are in a better position to decide who qualifies for loans to begin with.

A great way to collect revenue would be if the IRS actually did their job as well by starting with garnishing wages of those in that dept that haven't paid taxes in years and owes billions....as well as many other Federal government employees who have been 'let off the hook' by ignoring them for far too long. I understand that many Federal contractors also owe millions in taxes and haven't been harassed to pay up. If the IRS can take away 'normal' citizens' incomes, homes, cars, bank accounts, etc. why is it so hard to police your own scofflaws when you already have their payroll records and checks so readily available to you? You just have to look across your desk instead of searching for them.

Since some think the Dept of Education "needs to go" can I take it that some previous Trump supporters disagree with Trump appointing a Secretary of Education?

the possibility that the sole reason she was appointed was to dismantle that department and use her successful business experience to do it efficiently by sending the authority back to the States and then go back to her life (that includes being a long time advocate for charter and private school choice)?

What I really mean, that is.

I thought I did...you were complaining about Obama cancelling the repayment of student loans....

and I showed links that show they were repaying them by providing a service to the government/public for repayment for their loans. OR how dying could release a debtor from repayment...

RE:What I really mean, that is.

Perhaps you could enlighten me...I'm NOT ESL but speak slowly...

You didn't get it. Hint. "that's not what I meant....here's what I really meant".

OK..I got it now...I think

Taking Trump Seriously, Not Literally

The press takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally.

I "took him" tonight just long enough to watch Melania recite the Lords Prayer...and hear him say...He didn't know she was going to do that. THEN I changed channels. So, I watched for 1 minute...

During Obama's first campaign, he promised to bring down the debt by 1/2 in his first term saying that he'd be a one term president if he failed at that. He said it was wrong to put that debt on our children. Later one, his focus turned to student loan debt promising government help. Thus, he could say that the debt on the back of the children wasn't the national deficit but their own debt. It's nothing he actually flipped on, however, but just a way politicians learn to use "alternate facts" at their own convenience. "I know that's what I said but it's not what wanted it to mean."

RE: he promised to bring down the debt by 1/2 in his first term saying that he'd be a one term president if he failed at that.

Did Obama say of the national debt, “If I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a one-term proposition”?

"Today I'm pledging to cut the deficit we inherited by half by the end of my first term in office,"

Note the phrase "we inherited" was removed from the ad’s version.

And the president is speaking about the Troubled Asset Relief Program, not halving the deficit.

We should note there’s been a troubling trend this election season of campaigns splicing together unrelated or out-of-context video of a candidate’s statements.

either don't know the difference between the NATIONAL DEBT and the DEFICIT or they choose to ignore/blend the two as meaning the same thing.

NATIONAL DEBT = what we usually borrow for agendas that the DEFICIT doesn't cover (such as the wars or additional stimulus/bailouts, student loans once the Federal government took it over, and the $85B per month that the Treasury was dumping into Wall Street).

DEFICIT = the annual budget amounts for government spending which also includes items such as stimulus or additional social programs (like increasing unemployment benefits from 26 weeks to 99 weeks, increasing the SS Disability payments, additional welfare benefits, Obamacare, etc.)

BO promised to cut the DEFICIT in half.....and he DID....HOWEVER....it wasn't the BUSH deficit that he cut in four years, but HIS OWN. The DEFICIT at the end of BUSH's term was around $500B but the very first year and for the next three years of BO's budgets were ALL over $1 TRILLION.

DEFICIT = the annual budget amounts for government spending which also includes items such as stimulus or additional social programs (like increasing unemployment benefits from 26 weeks to 99 weeks, increasing the SS Disability payments, additional welfare benefits, Obamacare, etc.)

Here's the definition of "deficit" that I use...

def·i·cit the amount by which something, especially a sum of money, is too small

IF I earn/take in less than I spend...I have a "deficit"

It is NOT the amounts that I spend on certain things...It IS the difference between income AND spending...Deficit...

those disabled people who qualify to not have to repay the student loan wind up qualifying for Social Security Disability benefits as well, so why can't they repay the loan from those checks? They weren't working to pay back the loan in the first place so now that they DO have an income, they could, right?

when student loans are forgiven, they still have to pay taxes on the forgiven amount because it would be considered income.

AND if you actually knew about most disability checks are then you would know they are not much -- barely enough to survive.