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Watch Zell Miller's speech

It'll be starting in about a minute. A Democrat, he's going to rip Kerry a new one. Two Americas or two John Kerrys?

DE

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Just about his first words were

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"My family is more important to me than my party and the only person I trust to protect my family is GWB"

Talking about Kerry now.......and you're right, he's getting ripped a new one.

I think I'm in love with this southern gentleman......

TONI

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Wow! He ripped Kerry's head off and spit in the hole!

Why didn't the Democrats nominate him or somebody like him for President? Oh nevermind, there aren't any more like him left among their kind. A national party no more...

And southern gentlemen are the best, lol.

DE

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(NT) (NT) Re: About his first words -- he was practically foaming

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Did he ever rip and said Kerry, "..is the man who wants our armed forces to be armed with what.....spit balls." Referring to just about all the military bills Kerry voted against.

VP Channey just came on to speak and said, "I'm sure glad Zell is on our side".

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'Gone With the Wind' Georgia southern accent......

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Had never heard Zell speak before. When he first came on, I thought to myself, self, this guy sounds just like one of those southern hell raising fire & brimstone preachers that used to come on radio in Clint, Texas just across the border to Mexico, that had such illegal WATT power could reach Alaska in the 1950's.

After 2 minutes of listening, the accent and religious preaching oratory style faded and this guy made right good sense and told it like it is. He was sincere and hardly let the crowd cheer him by avoiding a break in what he wanted to say.

He may have been a better pick than Kerry, but I would still pick Bush who has done what he said he would with action even though Bush is a poor public speaker compared to some others.

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Hi, DE.

Everything that Zell said about George the First in his first keynote speech (for the right side!) is also true of George the Second, in spades. If George the Second is doing such a bang-up job against terror, a war that most of the free world shares, why do so many of our former friends and allies now mistrust us? It takes a special talent to turn the kind of goodwill America received in late September 2001 into ill will and mistrust in less than a year -- but Bush managed it. That alone should disqualify him from serious consideration as leader of the free world!

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Cheney....

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quote" George W. Bush will never seek a permission slip to defend the American people" "a senator can be wrong for 20 years without consequences but a President has to have the deciding vote"

We still have the allies that we've had before except for possibly France and Germany, Dave. Others like N. Korea who favor Kerry are looking to have a President they believe they can push around. I'd rather have one that they either respect or fear...take your pick. Khadafi (sp) picked the right road a short while back.

TONI

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Re: Cheney....

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Hi, Toni.

There are some countries whose leaders have stuck with us against the people's wishes. Bush's approval rating in Britain is below 40%; Clinton's was well above 50. (No link; this is from a now-British e-mail correspondent, who recently moved there from Canada).

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Re: Cheney....

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Perception overseas of our country is mostly controlled by the media...what our news reports and what the foreign services decide to pick up. So if foreigners are fed a daily dose of resentment, doubt, anger, and hate by those within the country who resent the fact that a Republican is President and call him names such as tyrant, despot, ignorant, stupid, homophobic, racist and all the others...guess what those overseas are gonna think. All because our media loves to report on protests, failures, and controversies than of the successes of our nation. The world sees the US as a bunch of Jerry Springer guests instead of noble, freedom loving people.
Add to that a little international politics being played by some European nations...who would rather be known as rivals to the US by protecting nations harboring terrorists than being seen simply as our lacky (as they have painted those nations that support us) who share our visions of worldwide freedom and liberty.
The funny thing is, assuming Bush wins and the next President (whether Democrat or Republican) is as determined to assert the US's interests, you'll probably find that many of these nations and their people will follow our lead, simply becasue they will be unable to deny the truth of our success and desire to guarantee a free world.

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(NT) (NT) I think some countries have gone off the deep end

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That alone should disqualify him from serious consideration as leader of the free world!

With all his faults Bush is still more qualified to lead the war on terror than Kerry. Why? Because he has the audacity to make unpopular decisions which is a quality all good leaders must have. Kerry's entire record shows that he is only interested in popular decisions that don't threaten his image with the public. Bush makes the decisions that must be made even if he knows they will be held against him. Kerry's not shown me that he's man enough to do that. As muslim extremists continue their efforts at blackmail to forward their agenda we need someone who will not waiver in taking the necessary action, popular or not, because of worrying about how he will be judged for doing so.

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clay bush has balls

if kerry was my platoon leader id be dead

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Just because a decision is unpopular does not make it the right thing to do. On the other hand, when bush makes a decision and things end up totally firetrucked up like they are in Iraq, he either shifts the blame, says he's not responsible, denies there's a problem, goes on vacation, etc.

Dan

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Just because a decision is unpopular does not make it the right thing to do.

I didn't say it was. Unpopular decisions are required sometimes though and a good leader will make them without consideration of what others will think of him/her for having done so.

We know from experience that Bush will do what he thinks needs to be done without worry of being judged by the public for doing so. Kerry hasn't said or done anything yet to show me that he can do the same.

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better there than here if kerry gets in be here as you see what his record for waffleing is

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So the loyal Dems are the true patriots? The rest are

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on the 'wrong' side (presumably our British oppressors, the Republicans). It's nice to see that all truth and light are on your side.

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Re: loyal Dems are the true patriots? Both...

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Hi, KP.

I believe both parties are true patriots, but they have very different visions of the America they want to protect. Liberals (mostly Democrats) want a government and nation of by and for the people; Republicans want a government of by and for the wealthy, with enough crumbs trickling down to the "great unwashed" to keep them happily voting Republican.

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Sorry Dave, but the truth is obvious. Republicans want to

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return power to the people. Democrats want to give it to the elites which is why so many of the elite in the media, entertainment, legal, etc. professions support them.

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The coffee is most aromatic

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Wake up and give it a sniff, KP.

Dan

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Class warfare again, Dave...

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Sorry, Dave, it's obvious that once again you are trying to stir up a feeling of class warfare, something that the Democrats constantly do with references to the rich, the wealthy, and such.
Look at your use of the term "great unwashed", implying that all citizens are not equal. This is necessary to the class warfare routine, you must imply that some people are "better" than others, and therefore more capable or "ruling". More capible tends to run to things like living in a "superior" northeastern state, having attended a "superior" university (usually ivy league), being of or closely associated with a "superior" family, like the Kennedys, Having a "superior" education like a PHD, and many other "qualifications" for superiority. You can be staggeringly wealthy, like Kerry's family, but that is not a negative if you are "superior" due to other factors.
Once this setup is thrown out, then comes the pitch. It can be implication that a single person is inferior (he's just a "cowboy"), and not worthy of rule, or the same for something like an entire state's right to try a murder who was found guilty for another murder in a different state, like your objection to Alabama having their right to try the D.C. mass murderer/sniper.
The bottom line is to insist that some people are "lesser", to justify a claimed superiority. Everybody equal won't do, what's the point of being a prince if you don't have peasants to rule? What's the point of specifically mentioning that you are a PHD in an opinion letter for something like an objection to a new flavored pain releiver if not to imply that it for some strange reason makes your opinion more valuable/worthy of consideration than one of the "great unwashed" who don't have one? I perfer the image of the U.S. where people are equal, and there is no supposedly "superior" class of people as we had before 1776 when we were a colony of England. The existance of classes, which yields such words as "I know my place" is not a popular view in the U.S., a essential part of our government is that all men are created equal.

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Good to see you J.....evidently

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you are feeling better after your fall/injury???

TONI

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Much better, thanks...

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Much better, Tony, thanks. Better in more ways than one. As Popeye the Sailor said, "That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more!". Things will change here.
Sidebar: I propose a new law/regulation for Social Security disability. I propose that if someone is ruled to need a guardian and one is appointed over them, at least once a year a representative of the government be required to physically go to the that person, actually see them, converse with them, and ask some basic questions.

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Re: Class warfare - by the Republicans on average citizens

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Hi, J.

the class warfare being waged is by those in the upper 5-10%, who not being satisfied with their current lot, are trying to stick it to the rest of the country to enrich themselves. What's astonishing is that so many folks simply say "please sir, may I have another!"

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What I find astonishing, Dave...

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Dave, what I find astonishing is that not only do you still insist that the U.S. is a society of "classes", but that you now claim to know the thoughts and motivations of one of those "classes" that you have created in your mind and classify as your enemy.
What keeps running thru my mind was something that you said a while back when the subject was universal government health care. You mentioned that with it, you could have spent your money on a replacement laptop computer rather than health care. Think about that. You were telling us about your trips, at that time to Russia as I remember. You had the money to do that,it must have been nice. Health care is an important thing, and I'd prefer if the motivation for a change in it was better care for people, not more disposable income for fun or personal toys.
But then again, I am of the opinion that in the U.S. we don't have a society of classes and "proper" activity for members of them, but a society in which all citizens are equal. I guess that I just don't "know my place".

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why do so many of our former friends and allies now mistrust

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Most do not and those few who seem to seemed to BEFORE Bush was even elected. (a quick review of French and German "friendliness" prior to 9/11 will demonstrate that the friendliness disappeared during the Clinton years.)

It takes a "special talent" to spend so much time reading liberal propaganda and missing out on what is really happening in the world.

Think Russia should be waiting on a UN Resolution? Think they should act when they have it or waqit for another one or two or four?

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Yes, I did!

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Poised, passionate, powerful, accusatory without stridency, condemnatory without shrillness; Sen. Miller's speech was a near classic example of the political oration of the best kind. I can't wait to read the text in full...

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Beautiful!

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As Cheney said (paraphrasing) Thank goodness hes on our side.

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Zell Miller KICKED ***!

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This man puts country before party. That's a REAL American.

What happened to the rest of his party? Aren't there any more real Americans left there?

Lots of quotable lines in his speech. I might have to start using John "bowl of mush" Kerry to describe that leftist. And like Vice President Cheney, I'm glad Zell Miller is on our side -- the real American side -- and we're lucky to have him.

DE

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(NT) (NT) WOW!!!!!!!!

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I was flipping channels

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And came upon one showing his speech. I pretty much sat mesmerized. Except when I was cheering, of course! Wink

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