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Watch Out for TigerDirect.com Rebates

Dec 13, 2005 4:46AM PST

I purchased a FujiPlus 19" monitor with a $70 rebate in July 2005. After waited 10-15 weeks for processing, I called the rebate phone number. I talked to ladies who answered the phone, Summer & Meggie at least 5 times during Mov & Dec, no email response as promised or called back. I recommend not buying anything from tigerdirect w/ rebate attached.

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OnRebate>>Tiger Direct rip-off
Mar 4, 2006 5:04AM PST

You are one of the lucky one, that receives their rebate. Here's a quote from Better Business Bureau

"Thank you for contacting the Better Business Bureau concerning the dispute you are having with the above named company. We have forwarded your complaint to the company for their comments and/or action. You will be informed of the outcome of this matter. However, we must advise you that the prognosis for a favorable resolution of your issue is not good. This company has already "earned" an "unsatisfactory" business reliability report with the BBB. It is, therefore, doubtful that they will respond to us, or to you, concerning this matter. Nevertheless, we will make our best effort to help mediate a solution."

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OnRebate
Apr 11, 2006 10:23PM PDT

Just had to update with my personal experience.

I mailed out three rebates to OnRebate on 3/31 (Friday). On 4/4 (following Tuesday), I received email confirmations that they'd received my documentation. All three of the rebates were approved. On 4/5 (Wednesday) I received emails to notify me that checks were mailed out. On 4/10 (Monday, 10 total days after mailing out documentation) I received all three checks.

I should point out that I did opt for the "no wait rebate" wherein you concede 1/10th + 50 cents (so $4.50 on a $40 rebate) of the rebate for a speedier return (I'm impatient like that).

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Tiger Direct rebates
Apr 12, 2006 2:53AM PDT

Thats great that you received yours... Both of mine totaled $125.00 and I have yet to see one penney... My rebate was sent in last November of 2005..
Ron

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In Reference To Submissions
May 2, 2006 3:19AM PDT

Thank you for your response.

Here at Onrebate.com we receive many claims but some seem to get misdirected or lost by mail. Please send an email to our customer service advocate nadina.urdaneta@onrebate.com and she will instruct you on how to resubmit. Also we will investigate in your case in efforts to find a resolution.

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In Reference To Rebate Claims
May 8, 2006 5:10AM PDT

Please send an email to our customer advocate nadina.urdaneta@onrebate.com in efforts to find a resolution to your rebates from onrebate.com

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TigerDirect products cost a lot more than their prices
Jun 7, 2006 5:04PM PDT

Don't ever be stupid enough to think the "after rebate" price is all you'll pay at TigerDirect.com. I know; I was just that stupid. Learn from my experience. Here's the story. Just the facts.

I buy three items - a mobo package including processor, a power supply, and a PCI raid card. All are advertised at pretty good prices, but after I click on the "buy" button, turns out they have a higher price, but I'm promised a rebate. I fall for it. How much trouble could that be? They come in a timely manner; I hook them up, they work. Of course, while hunting around trying to find the rebate forms to download, I notice an asterisk that points to some fine print at the bottom of a looong page that says my motherboard is "re-certified". Whatever that means. Probably a refurb.

I download and print out the rebate forms, go through all the hassle of filling them out, make copies of my invoice to send along, and go to cut out the barcodes which OnRebate.com requires.

GOTCHA #1:
The power supply box doesn't have a barcode. I call TigerDirect. Several robot phone menus later, and listening to recorded ads for more products while on hold, I get a person. I explain the situation. Hold some more. Then the guy says we can't send you a bar code for the power supply, so we'll credit the amount of the rebate ($20) to your next order. Well, I hadn't caught on yet what kind of company I was dealing with, so I said OK.

I send off the other two rebates with all the required information filled out, copies of the invoice, the barcodes cut off the packages, all the i's dotted and t's crossed. I kept copies, too.

I go to the OnRebate website and fill out the online forms - they require that, too...probably took 30-45 minutes in all online and offline, filling out forms, zeroxing the invoice, addressing the separate envelopes required to submit each rebate. What's your time worth? But you aren't getting off this easy.

I get emails from OnRebate saying that my rebate processes have been started and both are awaiting their receipt of my documentation (copy of the TigerDirect order, rebate forms filled out and signed, barcodes cut from the packages). I've worked for the government; I know how to read forms carefully and fill them out and include all required documentation.

Gotcha #2:

My documentation arrives at OnRebate and they send me an email saying they approved one of them (the one from AMD), but as I learned at the OnRebate website while I was filling the forms out there, it will take 6-8 weeks to actually get a check unless you want to pay them $5 to get it credited to paypal right now (well actually, 'right now' when they get all my documentation and you meet all their conditions). The other one they reject because it is supposedly the "wrong bar code" - which it wasn't because I cut it off the box they sold me the pci card in. I email them and tell OnRebate this and to scan it again, and after repeated attempts and more automatic email responses, I call TigerDirect - AGAIN.

Gotcha #3:
Back through the automated yada-yada-yada again until I finally get a person. I tell him what OnRebate says about the barcode on the pci card box they sent me that was supposedly eligible per their website for a rebate. More time on hold. "So sorry that happened, I'll credit the $10 to your credit card for that right now." I think "great - these guys are OK. I just had an unusually bad experience." I wish.

Gotcha #4:
I wait. I check my credit card statement when it comes two and one half weeks later, GUESS WHAT? No credit from TigerDirect as promised. Boy, it sure is a LOT of hassle to get the prices they CLAIM they sell things for on the Internet website!

Gotcha #5:
I call TigerDirect AGAIN. Maybe they should be on my speed dial by now, right? They have a caller ID thing that recognizes who is calling, asks you if it is about the recent order, yada-yada-yada, run you through more "push 1 for this" menus, put me on hold for 25 minutes listening to their sales pitches to buy more products from them, etc. The person I finally get says that, "since it's about an OnRebate issue, you need to call back tommorrow when those guys are in, 9am - 6 pm." I tell him I don't want to call back and get put on hold again, I've had to call 3 times already, and I would like to speak to a supervisor. He says he'll get one and puts me on hold for another 15 minutes. He comes back on and wants to take my number and says the supervisor will call me back as soon as he's free. I ask how long that will be, he says he can't say, I tell him I'll just wait, he puts me on hold for another 15 minutes, and drops the call.

While I'm holding, I do a google search on TigerDirect.com, and find the posts by others who have been taken in by these guys. I read quite a few while I'm waiting. Sound kinda familiar, too. And I dotted EVERY i and crossed EVERY t.

Gotcha #6:

Well, by this point I'm getting the picture. Their rebate system doesn't work no matter whether you follow the directions or not. It seems clear to me their rebate system is not intended to work, except in the sense it allows TigerDirect lure customers to their site by advertising seemingly good prices, and then trick consumers into paying significantly higher prices with promises of rebates they will probably never actually receive.

And I'm getting really annoyed with the runaround. I call back again and waste another 15 minutes going through all the phone diversion stuff and then when I get a person again, he wants to take my number and a supervisor will call me tommorrow. "There isn't a supervisor available now." Funny, there was 20 minutes ago.

Get the picture? They act polite and find one way after another to get you off the phone, promise stuff they don't deliver (like the credit back to my credit card for the rebate amount they promised but didn't send from OnRebate.com), talk to a supervisor, and generally keep you going in circles until you either forget to check to see if they actually send the check or credit your card, or eventually finally realize it's not worth the time and trouble anymore to get them to deliver on their promises.

Gotcha #7:
TigerDirect advertises prices which, after you get far enough into the ordering process, have "*after rebate" tagged on to them, and if you are stupid enough to think this is an honest company trying to treat it's customers right and order the stuff, your total is, of course, BEFORE rebates, and much higher than the advertised price total would be.

Gotcha #8:
From my experience and the other reports I've read, you will only receive rebates at a tremendous cost of your time and energy, probably more than they are worth if you work at anyplace that pays better than minimum wage, IF you ever get them at all.

The only reason I've put this much trouble into it is that the only thing I hate more than getting ripped off is letting somebody get away with it and keep on doing it.

It will be interesting to see if my wasting all this time detailing the complex diversion strategies (package doesn't have a barcode the rebate form says you are supposed to send in, package has the wrong bar code per OnRebate.com, bounce you back and forth between OnRebate and TigerDirect in hopes you'll give up, promise to credit your credit card and then don't, tell you to call back another time, etc.) actually results in my getting the money credited to my credit card - FOR REAL this time - since they may want to at least maintain the appearance of being an ethical firm on sites like this. I won't hold my breath, though. If they post here I finally got it and it's a lie, I'll check back and fill you in.

If you are smart enough to have checked here before buying from TigerDirect, learn from other's misfortune like mine, and avoid this firm. They have lots of frustrating and time-wasting ways to make you sorry you ever dealt with them.

I SURE am sorry I ever ordered from them.

Check out the guy's website about how TigerDirect and OnRebate are part of the same company. Or the South Florida BBB "unsatisfactory" rating. They earned it.

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Mr Coffee
Jun 7, 2006 10:47PM PDT

If you track through this discussion, you will find the name and email address of a "cut through the crap" lady who may be able to help you.
For my money, I will not deal with any more rebates unless it is with companies who have stores I can walk into...
I must say this is the first time I too have had big troubles with an internet company. My rebate was for $95. plus $20. I got the $95. rebate but I have given up on the $20. rebate.
Bottom line is I, and my friends, and family will not be purchasing anything else from Tiger Direct. May I suggest that you sign up all of your friends and family members to received their catalogs. That will cost them plenty and you can get a little well earned "payback".
Good Luck... Ron

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Yeah, that's how TigerDirect works
Jun 8, 2006 12:21AM PDT

Ron

Quote:
I got the $95. rebate but I have given up on the $20. rebate.
End quote.

That seems to be how they work. Wear you down dogging them to keep their promises over and over by giving you the run around, sending you automatic emails that make them sound like that are interested in providing good service, ignoring your emails, putting you on hold forever, saying they are crediting you but don't, etc. I suspect the "cut-through-the-crap" lady is run around strategy #23. I've seen her "please contact me" post before on other sites. I think it's safe to assume that it's just more of their "advertise like crazy and you'll draw in customers who don't really check us out" strategy.

Did you find the website that shows that TigerDirect and OnRebate are the same company? And they ping-pong everybody that actually files a rebate back and forth like they have nothing to do with each other <lol>.

They are wholly-own subsidiaries of the same company. The website even has copies of government documents filed on the same day by the same person for both "companies" that, BTW, just happen to have the EXACT SAME PRINCIPAL ADDRESS filed with the State of Florida.

I guess this is the epitome of loss-leader marketing - get you in the door with promises of a good price they never intend to deliver to more than a few customers. Sucker you into thinking you just mail-in the rebate and you get it. Get your money and then you find out what incredibly creative run-around obstacles a corporation bent on dodging their promised pricing can come up with. Jeez.

Having thought about how they work for a while, it occurred to me, so why do they take 8 WEEKS to send your rebate, but they automatically send you an email saying one of your rebates has been approved within a day or so of getting your documents (on one of them, usually, from what I've read)?

Ummm, let's see, their address and check-printer is backed up 8 WEEKS worth? No, I don't think so.

They're counting on people thinking, I've got the rebate, and then they forget about it by the time the check is supposed to arrive two months later. Pretty clever scam, huh? They've got lots of clever ways to dodge paying.

I don't know how people that work for them sleep at night myself.

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Tiger Direct Rabates
Jun 8, 2006 1:07AM PDT

You sound like you are a "hounddog on track" just like me... My wife, from time to time, has to remind me that I need to just "let it go". I can't seem to do this; but it's very good advice.
Your rebate is for $20.00... Hardly worth the heartache it has caused you. Maybe it's time to pour some gas on the problem, ignite it, and then the problem is solved.
Good Luck... Ron

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Tiger Direct Rebates
Jun 8, 2006 5:54AM PDT

My experience is that any "rebate company" will do almost anything to avoid payment of rebates. It's my belief that they are paid based on the amount of money they can avoid paying out.
That said, I have been a TD customer for approximately 5 years. I have ordered numerous items over the years, and almost always with a rebate. I have found that if I do everything exactly as required, then send the rebate forms by registered mail, that I haven't had a problem.
It's hard for them to say that it's lost in the mail, if you send it by registered mail. The post office will send you a receipt showing that it was delivered.
If you leave anything to chance, they will take advantage of it fully.

Best of Luck

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Yeah, that's what they count on
Jun 8, 2006 1:11PM PDT

Hi Ron,

Quote:
You sound like you are a ''hounddog on track'' just like me... My wife, from time to time, has to remind me that I need to just ''let it go''. I can't seem to do this; but it's very good advice. Your rebate is for $20.00... Hardly worth the heartache it has caused you.
End quote:

I think that is exactly what TigerDirect\OnRebate is counting on - that people will either

1) Forget they didn't get the rebate check

2) Give up after TigerDirect\OnRebate finds some petty fault with their rebate documentation (especially since most people don't realize they are part of the same company)

3)Or as you say, get tired of hassling with trying to make TigerDirect make good on their rebate offers and decide to let it go for their own ''mental health.''

I appreciate the spirit in which the advice is given. But it's not about my $20 - actually, it's 50+20+10. But that's beside the point. It's about taking an active part in addressing what's gone wrong in business practices in far too many firms in this country, from Enron to shady Managed Care insurers to places like Tiger Direct where it is Standard Operating Proceedure to engage in various give-em-the-run-around and repeatedly use various deception-and-delay and hope-they-forget-or-give-up tactics to wear down consumers who are only trying to get what they have been promised in a sales contract or prospectus.

If people like you and I don't get the word out, they'll just ripoff more people whose heartache comes to them through no fault of their own.

As Margret Meade used to say, ''Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world. In fact, it is the only thing that has.''

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Rebate
Jun 13, 2006 2:59AM PDT

Dear Customer,

Email our customer advocate nadina.urdaneta@onrebate.com in efforts to assist and find a resoultion.

Onrebate.com

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Should File Class Action Suit Against TigerDirect.com
Jun 13, 2006 2:48AM PDT

I have ordered only once from TigerDirect, thankfully, I got my rebate after I sent everything off. But I am not surprised to hear others haven't. I remember back in the day, places like BestBuy were horrible bout their rebates, now, they are much better.

I suggest everyone on this board who has a legit complaint against TigerDirect, get together and figure out how you could file a class action lawsuit against this company. It's my belief that this company and others like it offer rebates in hopes that a) you will never send in to get your rebate, b) they can just randomly refuse rebates for whatever reason they see fit, or c) claim you didn't send it in at all or that it might of got lost in the mail.

Ontop of it all, what are these companies doing with your information anyways once you send your rebate info to them? Short of asking for a vile of blood, they got all kinds of information they can use to sell to people and do you think TigerDirect doesn't sell your email address and other info? Hrrm..

I won't be buying nothing from TigerDirect no more I know..

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Since you asked what TD\OnRebate they do with personal info
Jun 14, 2006 3:39AM PDT

Since you asked what OnRebate does with all your personal info - here's where they sell it to anyone who will pay for it.

http://glaserlists.com/Lists/OnRebate%20Enhanced.htm

I suggest anyone interested in participating in a class action suit, as suggested by the writer of the above post, try filing with ripoff.com and the Florida State Attorney General's office.

You may actually get your rebate if you are willing to earn it on hold, writing emails, calling back to TD over and over, but I am convinced at this point that the most likely way to actually get your rebate out of these jokers without doing 4-5 hours of work is to send copies of your rebate stuff and all correspondence to the Florida State Attorney General's office. That will probably get their attention and get you into their "I-guess-we-had-better-actually-pay-this-one" pile.

Cross your fingers the check doesn't bounce and cost you a $25 fee at your bank, though. They do that one, too.

They're betting you'll decide it's not worth it if they keep putting you through enough hassle over and over.

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Stick with South Florida BBB and Florida Attorney General
Jun 14, 2006 4:05AM PDT

See byker49's post on Ripoffreport.com.

Dang, there's a LOT of scams going on out here on the Internet.

Thanks for the tip, byker49!

mr coffee

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In Reference To Rebate
Jun 13, 2006 1:47AM PDT

Dear Customer,

Please send an email to our customer advocate nadina.urdaneta@onrebate.com in efforts to find a resolution to your rebate claims.

Onrebate.com

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Reading here & Resellerratings.com...I'll stick with Newegg
Jun 17, 2006 10:49AM PDT
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Read this post
Jun 13, 2006 2:44AM PDT
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Thanks for the tip!
Jun 14, 2006 4:06AM PDT

Thanks for the tip, byker49!

I guess we should all stick with the BBB and Attorney General's office.

mr coffee

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There must be a legal loophole
Jun 15, 2006 3:24PM PDT

I must say from the beginning that I have only dealt with TG only once and with OR only once, and I was a bit perturbed at thier 'instant rebate'...but I did recieve it. It is not mentioned that you will recieve your rebate until after they recieve your information, and then a wait time.

But after hearing all of these horror stories, I must say ''Why hasn't anything been done yet???'' I remember seeing a story on rebate claims not being honored on a major network, but nothing after that..these companies must have a huge lobby in DC.

I also must admit I am a lawyer hater...the ones who do the whole class action thing...They get most of the money and the rest is split between many people. They only get involved for one reason..money.

What we all need to do is get our representatives involved. If many of us, from many different states/districts, make an effort to make it a political issue then it will become a national issue.

Here are my suggestions:
1) Find more ppl like you
2) Distribute your local rep's email address, phone number and mailing address to everyone
3) Get the media involved!!!!
4) Let's get a national media figure involved, such as Bill O'Rielly ( even though a lot may have hate for him...he is a real force on rights of citizens!)
5) Make a group, association, or somehting that may be able to force your local reps in DC to do something.
The election time is at hand..use it to your advantage!