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Wanted: Notebook for coffee shop web-surfing + Word/Excel

Oct 11, 2004 8:07AM PDT

I'm looking for a fairly lightweight (6 lbs) notebook that's relatively inexpensive. The following is a list of things that I will use the most (in order of priority):

1. Surf the web at my local Starbucks 2. Work on Word documents and Excel spreadsheets 3. Occasional low requirement video games

Screen size is not that important, but I would like a keyboard that isn't overly cramped and fairly sturdy and comfortable.

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Re: Wanted: Notebook for coffee shop web-surfing + Word/Exc
Oct 11, 2004 9:08AM PDT

Why don't you look at 2 HP models for the sake of determining what you priorities really are (especially in reference to 'occasional games'.

1) HP DV1000 (see hpshopping.com --under HP consumer notebooks). This model has just been released (see Cnet review). It has only shared video memory (not dedicated) but it is a ideal notebook for frequent travelers and light processing loads and games. It has a remote control that slides into the PCcard slot that allows you to control the CD player and DVD player from across the room. Also, these can be played without booting up the notebook which saves time and battery life when using these functions only. It has a 14" LCD so it weighs in the 5.5 pound range. The key drawback is the lack of dedicated video RAM (any video RAM). It is a Pentium M Centrino notebook so get at least the Pentium M 725 1.6 Dothan to get the 2mb L2 system cache for best web surfing performance (double the cache of lower Pentium M's)

2) HPZT3000 / Compaq X1000 series (see X1000forums.com for details) .. this is a 15.4" widescreen notebook with up to 64mb dedicated video. This will even play Doom 3 on reduced settings (if you are a hard core gamer you would want the Dell 8600 with the 128mb dedicated video option but that is thicker and heavier). The 15.4" widescreen adds a pound of weight (to 6.5 pounds) but it will still fit in a 15" Targus notebook backpack or equivalent. It is outstanding for widescreen DVD's and Excel as the widescreen gives you more columns to the left and right as opposed to a square screen (but a bit less rows from top to bottom).
I have an X1000 series myself and I insist on at least some dedicated video RAM (does not use system RAM to slow down system and performs much better than shared memory).

But if you really will be doing light Microsoft Office work, web surfing, etc with light games the DV1000 may be for you (it just came out).

There is also a dedicated forum for the DV1000 posted on X1000forums.com (as people there have been comparing them as well).

Of course you can buy whatever brand you want but look at these 2 notebooks to determine your weight, LCD size, video performance, etc priorities.

There is a $100 custom order rebate on any HP model through 12/1/04 and a 6% APP college discount, 12% Employer EPP discount, 3% Fatcash portal discount, etc.

You can read about all of these issues on the forums.

Other important items are hard drive rpm speed and LCD resolution. Both of these notebooks can be ordered with the new XGA (1024x768 is widescren equivalent 1200x800) HP Briteview LCDS at hpshopping (similar to Sony Xbrite or Toshiba Trubrite) or you can order the higher SXGA or UXGA resolutions in a non Briteview display. Also, a 5400rpm hard drive will perform up to 50% faster when doing heavy program work but for Microsoft office is you have at least 512mb RAM that will be the main factor (and at least the Pentium M 725 Dothan with 2mb L2 cache). The 15.4" widescreen models make it a bit easier for the keyboard space.

You could also move even smaller to a 13.3" Fujitsu, etc but nearly all notebooks under 14" LCD and 5 pounds are using shared video memory.

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Re: Wanted: Notebook for coffee shop web-surfing + Word/Exc
Oct 11, 2004 10:11PM PDT

Thanks for the great advise! I've decided that the dv1000 fits my needs the best...and it's highly rated by several different sources. The movie watching ability is an extra bonus.

1. Is the Briteview display worth getting?
2. Is there a particular type of wireless card that's best for coffee shop surfing?
3. Other brands/models that fits the dv1000 mold?

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Re: Wanted: Notebook for coffee shop web-surfing + Word/Exc
Oct 12, 2004 4:54AM PDT

Make sure you get an Intel 2200b/g wi-fi card or equivalent. G is the current standard for homes and up to 5x faster than b but b is what is still used in many public areas. You can use both.

The Briteview makes DVD's and the screen look much more vivid with the glass-like coating on it. They just became available on HP models last month. Prior to that only Sony (Xbrite), Toshiba (Trubrite) and Fujitsu (Crystal View) had it on some models. If you are mostly using it in a home setting or coffee shop it should be fine. Some people using notebooks at work prefer the original non-Briteview LCD as it can lead to more reflections if there are harsh flourescent lights or an outside window with direct light behind you.

The HP DV1000 is brand new so there is not much out there like it on the PC side (at least for this price range). Compaq has a similar model (hpshopping also) but it lacks some of the DVD/CD playback features of the HP.

Make sure you download the $100 custom order rebate -- states on PDF file that any configure to order model is qualified (any HP at hpshopping that is not a prebuilt) and submit that with your UPC code instead of the $50 rebate posted at the order site. It can be found on the mail in rebates link in the lower left of the main hpshopping homepage.

To keep the cost down, order 256mb RAM and add 512mb PC2700 RAM yourself later for under $100 more when on sale (Kingston RAM at Best Buy or Fry's Electronics, Crucial RAM at website, etc). That gives you 768mb RAM for cheaper than 512mb RAM through HP. Note, you have only 2 RAM slots on a notebook.

Also, make sure you order at least the Pentium M 725 Dothan 1.6 with the 2mb L2 system cache.

Find the dedicated forum for the DV1000 mentioned in the general section of X1000forums.com. This is a website just for users of this notebook and it just started up this month. I don't know this website offhand as I have a Compaq X1000.