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vista safety

Dec 27, 2007 11:42PM PST

i just purchased a new computer from dell for my mom (who is 70)and it has vista on it.she has had xp before and we ran into problems with many spyware and other bugs. my question is what would be some good security programs i could put on this before i turn her loose on it?she lives about an hour away and i cant always get there when she has a problem so it sometimes turns into a big mess.last pc she had i ended up reinstalling os to fix.

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For starters...
Dec 28, 2007 12:24AM PST

Here are mine:

AVG Free Anti-Virus
AVG Anti-Spyware (Free after full trial)
SpywareBlaster Free
Ad-aware 2007 Free
Spybot Search & Destroy Free
CCleaner Free
SUPERAntispyware Free

There are other I am sure you will be told about. I would disable the Vista UAC feature... it will drive her crazy. Many pros recommend this for various reasons. I have had no problem with it disabled.

Hope this helps.

Glenn

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thanks
Dec 28, 2007 12:33AM PST

thank you for your recomendations.i am trying to give her a smoother running computer from the beginning to help me in the end lol..can i download these on a disk and install that way due to the fact that she has dial up.i am still trying to persuade my dad into dsl.also should these all be set for auto updates and will they conflict?

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Your plan seems a good one...
Dec 28, 2007 12:38AM PST

I have downloaded to disk and installed from there in the past. Use your judgment about auto updates... its my preference to do these manually... maybe AVG Free auto update would be good for her.

You know your mom best and what she would be more comfortable with.

Good luck!

Glenn

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From Glenn's list...
Dec 28, 2007 12:39AM PST

There are no conflicts and it is recommended that auto updates be enabled. Note, though, that Spywareblaster and AVG Antispyware (free edition) must be updated manually.

John

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other pcs
Dec 28, 2007 12:45AM PST

another reason i would like to load from disk is i have about 4 other pcs in my house and i wanted to make them kinda uniform as for safety programs.this would help keep track.

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Not a bad list...
Dec 28, 2007 12:35AM PST

Most commercial software is not Vista-compatible, as is the vast majority of freeware, so there's a wide range to choose from. You'll find several other free options in this post to the forum sticky. Just keep in mind that while Vista includes the Windows Firewall and Windows Defender (antispyware) they are not sufficient and should be complemented, if not completely replaced, by third-party alternatives.

Hope this helps,
John

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instant messaging
Dec 28, 2007 12:48AM PST

one other question i have is about aim instant messaging on vista or xp.that is one thing that she does do alot of(i think its where her problems came from)and do you think this will be a problem?

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I use Windows Live Messenger...
Dec 28, 2007 12:52AM PST

all the time and have had no problems. I would caution her about accepting file transfers from unknown sources using Messenger. I have had no problem there but would be careful.

Mostly it's all about using good judgment.

Glenn

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No problem...
Dec 28, 2007 12:55AM PST

I personally don't like AOL's instant messenger due to the bloat and occasionally spyware alerts (they frequently bundle third-party gaming software WildTangent), instead looking at freeware alternatives Trillian and Pidgin (previously known as Gaim). However, AOL's Triton will work under Vista just as it does Windows XP now that version 6.1 fixed numerous compatibility issues.

John

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vista uac
Jan 4, 2008 6:38PM PST

Hi
I read a post that said disable vista uac what is this and how can i diable it.
regard's rob.

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UAC=User Account Control
Jan 4, 2008 7:06PM PST

see "User Account Control overview" in help and support. Basically it's an additional security feature built within Vista to prevent Malware infections. For the user it a pain. Why is it a pain? Because it takes a great deal of time and because it's annoying. It can be disabled from the user accounts section in control panel. There are two instances in which you might wish to enable it, 1) If you have small children in the house that might tamper with your settings or 2) if your using it in a business environment where additional security might be needed. Should you wish to disable it, the risk is yours.

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user account control.
Jan 4, 2008 7:47PM PST

Hi
I have done that thanks for the info.
regard's Rob.

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(NT) Your welcome
Jan 4, 2008 8:47PM PST
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In Addition, Try Using A HOSTS File
Dec 28, 2007 4:23AM PST

It prevents the computer from visiting some of those "bad" sites so the drive-by malware can't be installed.. Don't know about a HOSTS file, click on the link below:

How To Use A HOSTS File

Hope this helps.

Grif

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hosts file
Dec 28, 2007 5:52AM PST

i dont think that i will have to limit her that way yet but i appreciate the info.and thank you everyone for the support.

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About Hosts file restriction
Jan 4, 2008 2:24PM PST

No, that wouldn't limit her in any way. Most of the sites in HOSTS blocking list are sites that she wouldn't normally visit anyway except by "accident".

My recommended hosts site list, also one of the most well known host list:
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

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if you want to spend the money
Jan 2, 2008 4:37AM PST

if you want to spend the money on something you can trust will work, try kaspersky internet security or nod32/eset smart security. most people will never manually run updates or even pay attention to security, at least get something that will take care of itself.

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VISTA SAFETY
Jan 4, 2008 11:38AM PST

Consider Panda. Put it on there, set it for automatic updates and she'll likely never have a security problem or have to do anything else except renew it once a year.