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Vista Clean Install:

Dec 18, 2007 11:32PM PST

I have an HP Pavilion laptop and I'm wanting to do a clean install of Vista.

I have a recovery DVD from HP, but it's my understanding that I cannot do a clean install of Vista, as using this will still load all of the bloatware that HP decided I 'needed'? Is this true, or can I do a clean install using the recovery dvd?

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Re: clean install
Dec 18, 2007 11:36PM PST

1. The recovery DVD recovers to factory conditions. It's generally called 'clean'.
2. It's not HP that decided that you needed it. It was you that decided to buy an HP with all that software. Why buy things you don't need and apparently don't want?
3. To install only Vista, buy a retail copy and download all drivers from the HP site.

Kees

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Re: clean in
Dec 18, 2007 11:49PM PST

I'll disagree with you on the statement on who decided what was needed...but that's a debate for another time.

I've just read that Vista will run much smoother after a clean install. If that's the case...I'll either purchase Vista on my own, or I'll save my $ and let it lag a little.

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I've seen clean installs of Vista on laptops.
Dec 19, 2007 1:46AM PST

The persons who did that spend about 4 weeks hunting down drivers for their laptop prior to the install. They also had to pay for yet another license for Vista.

And it ran no faster.

Maybe you just want to use this tool -> http://pcdecrapifier.com/

Bob

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Clean vista install is possible...
Jan 7, 2008 4:39AM PST

....and recommened if you have a look at the link below..
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=120228

I have not done this yet, but my HP laptop id due to me in a few days and I am strongly considering. I do have concerns about a driver hunt nightmare, but the article seems to have it covered.

I will update here if I do go for the clean install..

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1 in 20,000.
Jan 7, 2008 4:49AM PST

I'm pegging the odds the owners I encounter on this topic at 1 in 20,000 success rates.

Most would be happy that the dang thing just works. More are happy with just the de-crapped effort. Less than 1 in 20,000 will consider the time to do the clean install.

Bob

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never tell me the odds
Jan 7, 2008 5:08AM PST

reading the requirements in that link, it does not seem to be much of a big deal to do a clean install ..espeically if you do it with a new machine and have no risk of deleting any save files and applications.

I imagine that with the help of HP drivers DL page, you should be up and running with your DVD/fingerprint/audio/bluetooth features immediately, and later fixing driver issues as they arise.

..or do you think I'm being too optimistic?

What's your opinon on the effort itself Bob? Would it be enough just to emiminate the obvious bloatware upon firing up your new machine for the first time?

Thanks,

Will

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Let me share my last 2 Vista laptop setups.
Jan 7, 2008 5:18AM PST

Boot up, let it do it's prep work, toss out Norton, install Free AVG, run the Decrapper, install Zone Alarm. Done.

Yes I did set up my own account, one for wife, the kid and for me turned off Aero and the nasty sidebar. That was all of 15 minutes and I was on to better things like checking the Cnet news.com site.

Bob

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re: Clean Vista install is possible...
Jan 7, 2008 5:13AM PST

Yeah, saw this link before as well. I considered it, but after speaking with a friend at the FBI (he doesn't work in this area, but his advice was helpful), the legality of performing a clean install by going this route was quite questionable.

Therefore, I've done a clean install by other means, all legal.

As for tracking down drivers -- it wasn't necessary. Vista found all needed drivers pretty easily, at least for me. As for speed, it definitely boots up much faster, and runs better. I was running 38-40% of my 2 GB's RAM while idling with Zero programs open, and that's down to about 28-30%. Other tasks seem to be being performed better as well, though I'm sure when the SP1 is officially released, it may increase some file copying performing even a little more.

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gracias
Jan 7, 2008 5:30AM PST

Thank you both, gents--

I didnt realize the legal questions in the linked process until I read into it...but i'm glad that it worked. May I ask how you did your 'full legal' clean install-by authorizing from Microsoft or just a new disk?

Bob, thanks for your insite--I may just elect to go your route and decrap the whole thing. Decrapper is the bloatware remover utility I presume..?

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Re: clean install
Jan 7, 2008 5:43AM PST

I purchased a legal copy on my own. Whether it was 100% necessary or not was still questionable, which I why I erred on the side of complete legality. I now own a copy I can use forever. If / when I purchase a new computer in a couple of years, I'll do another clean install then as well.

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RE: clean install
Jan 7, 2008 5:45AM PST

yes the full version separate from an install version has its benefits...and without the legal worries.

I've been using Vista for a few weeks now on another machine and all seems fine, outside of some slowness that I hope SP1 will fix.

Luckily, I havent seen what the fury is all about...

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Yes it is. I reccommend it and...
Jan 7, 2008 5:48AM PST

If you don't think it's decrapped enough in the ten minutes it takes then you have "the bomb" to really clean the place up.

Bob