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video editing: software/hardware

Jan 8, 2008 11:03PM PST

i am interested in making short films and editing them on my computer. i am planning to buy both camcorder and pc now, so i am looking for some advice. the camera will probably be the canon hv20.

which video format is it easier to work with?

would an apple be the ideal choice, for working with video and pictures? if not would this ( Pavilion dv9680ev ) do?

what is the ideal software to work with?

i will buy a computer with this specs:
2.0GHz or 2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
1 or 2GHz of memory

if i go for an apple, will mac book do or i need to buy a book pro?

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Go for 2 GB RAM
Jan 11, 2008 9:48AM PST

Video editing is the most computing intensive thing I do on my computer and I have 2GB RAM. Also -- depending on how you wish to do your importing, compressing/decompressing, etc., you may create very large video files on your hard drive, so go for either the larger hard drives, or better yet, include an additional and separate external USB drive; you will need the external for your automatic backups as well. I have a 250 GB hard drive and have added a 160 GB external drive for my backups and a 500 GB drive to archive my video files.

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Nero and Roxio
Jan 11, 2008 12:28PM PST

Nero & Roxio both have great editing suites, and the ability to make real cool DVD's, Slideshow DVD's. My personal favorites were Nero 7(which is now Nero Cool, and Roxio 10.
You can usually get free OEM (lite) versions when you purchase a DVD drive. Use MPEG 2, it is the DVD standard format. AVI needs a compression program like DIVX to make a sharp picture. The key to good videos and DVD is use the highest bitrate, and use no compression, and be prepared with lots of hard disk space.
Also save your work, all the time. Video editing software can hang. So every few steps in your project save it.

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Here is my experience...
Jan 11, 2008 2:47PM PST

1. Recently a friend of mine showed me MAC OS X Leopard notebook. It has a lot of features, including the video editing.
The best thing about MAC is that the Operating System doesn't use a lot of memory like when you use Windows (a lot of things run in the background that slows your computer down).
You can only "drag & drop" new programs, not install or uninstall them. Also you can use both MAC & Windows OS in it.
Check the video:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/

2. If you decide to buy a computer with Windows OS, Intel Core 2 Duo (Centrino) would be best.
It's better to buy a bigger memory than to upgrade later.
My experience: 1GB = 512MB + 512MB in the slots, meaning... I need to buy 1GB + 1GB to upgrade to 2 GB and waste those two 512MB memory.

3. Please be careful with software conflict, especially if you want to try several programs. I would suggest you to download free trial before you buy. See if you like it.
I am still learning about video editing as well.
What I found: Magix Movie Edit Pro won't work with Pinnacle and Roxio products.
My computer ends up having error all the time, and the video editing program doesn't work correctly anymore.
Better to have only one program than many in one computer.
Choose software with complete manual in the box, that would be really helpful for beginner.

4. Now they have hard drive camcoders. Transferring to computer is quick too. Saving your money from buying a lot of cassettes.
I remember it took me about an hour to transfer from handycam per cassette and plus Rew/Fwd time.

Good luck.

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video editing: software
Jan 11, 2008 2:53PM PST
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A little bit of experience...
Jan 12, 2008 12:00AM PST

I'm not a film editor, but I speak from a little bit of experience first with a SD Sony MiniDV Handycam, then a SD Sanyo MiniDV Cam and now a Sony SR5 Hard Drive High Def Cam.

System Requirements: First and foremost, yes, 2GB is the absolute minimum to edit. I used to use 1GB and an SD clip of under an hour would take 8-9 hours overnight while seemingly freezing up your computer. I have no experience with MAC, if you plan on serious video editing I suggest you look into this option. Currently I'm using a Dell Vostro 1700 3GB Ram and have internal/external hard drives of over 2 terabytes. It is essential to have enough hard drive space. You probably want to edit from a HD on your computer so you aren't limited by USB transfer speeds so I suggest at least 30-50 gigs of free space depending on then number and size of video editing projects you plan on working on.

This will require a time investment: Minimally plan on spending an entire afternoon or evenings (about 6 hours) learning the software, downloading codecs, making sure videos plan in the right player, learning editing options and waiting while your computer does the transfer/edit process. If you are only trying to edit a small clip for your personal amusement once and done, I would suggest forget about video editing. That said, once you learn how to use the software it?s pretty easy. I come back after recording, pull the video off my camera, edit out a few frames, add some titles and maybe a background soundtrack then let my computer do the rest.

Are you editing SD or HD formats? Just about every software package out there has mastered SD video editing by now. So you really want to look at the features and 'extras' offered by each program. I used Pinnacle Studio in the past with lots of luck.

Video Formats: Each software offers a variety of video compression formats. Personally, I prefer formats viewable on my computer that are compatible with my HD files. You may want to make sure that files burn to DVDs for home use or backup. Do not rely on DVDs to backup your data forever. They can/will scratch easily and all of your memories will be lost. Do NOT count on Hard Drives to backup all of your data, they can and will break. I backup all of my pictures monthly onto an offsite DVD and all of my video is stored on three separate hard drives one of which is my laptop for offsite storage (in the event of a fire). If you haven't lost data yet feel very fortunate and realize your time is approaching.

HD Hell: Early adaptation of technology has its frustrations. Just a few months ago HD formats were more than troublesome to edit and not all (read: most) software packages knew how to tango with the new HD quality. A few months ago I would have said wait, but the time is approaching for HD (although I would still wait just a few months for 2008 models). HD editing is more commonplace and a variety of formats exist depending upon your manufacturer. Make sure you know what kind of HD format your manufacturer uses and then research and make sure the software supports it.

Again, I use Pinnacle Studio 11 Ultimate (its worth all the features) and they have recently alleviated all my HD headaches by handling most all HD formats.

Encoding: Video software can encode in NUMEROUS formats so understand each and play around with each. I backup one high def version for viewing at home and one compressed format for sharing, sending and posting. Find out which format works and looks best to you. With HD you must have an HD capable video player. I my learning phase I THOUGHT I had encoded HD video and was watching it unimpressed only to find out that my player did not support HD viewing. I currently use Nero Showtime and PowerDVD7 to view HD videos.

Sorry this is on the long winded side, if there's anything I can clarify or help you further with please don't hesitate to ask.

-EK

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Addition:
Jan 12, 2008 12:04AM PST