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Video downloads don't work in IE8

by wilsond212 / July 5, 2009 11:41 AM PDT

I've recently downloaded IE8, and find that it downloads any video in the Shockwave format, which I don't use. Is there any way to control the format for video downloads?

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by John.Wilkinson / July 5, 2009 2:32 PM PDT

Video format is exclusively up to the developer of the website; if they provide multiple formats, you can choose among them, but otherwise you'll have to resort to converting them to the desired format after the fact.


P.S. IE8 is fully capable of playing Shockwave videos with the (free) Shockwave plugin installed.

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Sorry John.
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / July 6, 2009 5:45 AM PDT
In reply to: No...

Didn't see your reply there!


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Not really.
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / July 6, 2009 5:43 AM PDT

Whether downloaded video files or streaming video, (they're not the same), the video type is set by the web site creator.

For example, if I have created a web site with a link to a downloadable video file called MyHoliday.wmv , then whatever browser you use to download it, it will download a .wmv file, not any other file type.

So your problem doesn't seem to be an IE8 problem.

Perhaps you could tell more?


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Video downloads don't work in IE8 -- more info
by wilsond212 / July 6, 2009 7:31 AM PDT
In reply to: Not really.

Streaming video will download in IE7 as flv format. The same site downloads the same video using IE8 as Shockwave (swf format), which I can't use. My Real Player doesn't seem to play them.


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Have you installed the Shockwave plugin from Adobe?
by John.Wilkinson / July 6, 2009 8:30 AM PDT

Once installed you can play the videos in your browser.


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Shockwave plugin
by wilsond212 / July 6, 2009 9:32 AM PDT

I downloaded it, and have run the installer, but it stops after I tell it not to download and install Norton!

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What was that message again?
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / July 6, 2009 8:26 PM PDT
In reply to: Shockwave plugin

"it stops after I tell it not to download and install Norton".

I'm not sure what you are saying there.


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Re: What was that message again?
by wilsond212 / July 6, 2009 10:00 PM PDT

What happens is this:
1. I click on the icon on my desktop for Shockwave_Installer_Slim.exe and run the program.
2. The program runs for 10-15 seconds, and appears to be installing the Shockwave program.
3. A pop-up screen appears offering to download Norton for free. I don't want the program, because McAfee is already installed, so I uncheck the box to download Norton, and click on "next".
4. The next screen says "successfully completed", with no further links. There's nothing more about running Shockwave, no additional icon on my desktop, and Real Player still won't play the Shockwave files.

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That's normal...
by John.Wilkinson / July 6, 2009 11:34 PM PDT

There is nothing more to it than that; The Shockwave plugin is a plugin, not a full application. And as we stated previously, it is a plugin for your browser, not Real Player. Try playing the Shockwave video in your browser and see if it works.


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Re: That's normal...
by wilsond212 / July 7, 2009 8:27 AM PDT
In reply to: That's normal...

Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my earlier posts. Here's the difference in actions between IE7 and IE8.

Using IE7:
I would go to a website and, when I found a video that I wanted to keep, I would right-click on the video while it is running. The last item on the menu was "Download This Video to Real Player". The file was then downloaded as a Flash file, with the extension "flv". Clicking on the "flv" file plays it in Real Player.

Using IE8:
When I go to a website and find a video that I want to keep, I right-click on the video while it is running. The last item on the menu was "Download This Video to Real Player". However, now two files are downloaded, one as a small "metafile" with a "meta" extension, and the other as a Shockwave "Flash Object" with the extension "swf". I cannot play the video by clicking either of these two files. The swf files are usually less than 50KB, in contrast to the flv files which are much larger.


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I understand the difference...
by John.Wilkinson / July 7, 2009 10:34 AM PDT
In reply to: Re: That's normal...

But the website, not the browser, determines the file that is downloaded. (The website may check operating system, browser, et cetera information to determine which to send you, but it is ultimately the site's decision.) If you want an FLV file instead of a SWF file, you can contact the site's webmaster. However, you can still play the SWF in your browser as long as the Shockwave plugin is installed. Your choice.


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flv vs swf
by beckykanokinney / July 23, 2009 10:29 PM PDT

When flv video is delivered over the web, it usually targets a video player created in Flash, which is the swf file. However, the flv is not contained in the swf. It stands off to the side, and the player loads it in. So, if you choose to play your flv in Real Player (I would NEVER make that choice myself, but that's another issue) it is probably the browser and not the author offering that option. What IE is apparently trying to do is make it possible for you to play the flv in a swf player. Why it would do that when the button specifies Real I have no idea. It is probably just being stupid, and downloading the file it sees rather than the actual video.

Just to make things more confusing, there are two types of flv delivery that may be in play. Streaming, and Progressive Download. In the latter case, the full flv is out there waiting to be grabbed on the server somewhere and you can often track it down by snooping the html on the video's html page. When it is streaming, the flv is being delivered piecemeal from a streaming server, and you won't have a way to access the full file. Both Real and Flash can play streaming video, so you won't see the difference when the browser is doing the right thing.

One final note. swf plays in the Flash plugin, which is different from the Shockwave plugin. Shockwave used to play both Flash and Director content, but I don't know whether Adobe has kept it up to date for the more recent versions of Flash. The name Shockwave should never have been apart of the SWF acronym, and officially I don't think it is, but old habits die hard.

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Enable back FLV download Youtube - realplayer
by gemstoneblue / August 9, 2009 5:08 PM PDT

TURN OFF IE8 Popup blocker:

go to Tools>Pop-up Blocker>Turn off Pop-up Blocker. restart IE8.. then youtube flvs can be downloaded as normal.

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