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video card vs. video card

by kjockie26 / July 29, 2006 4:53 AM PDT

Hello,

I'm having trouble choosing between the ATI Radeon X800 XL (256MB, PCI) and the Radeon x1600 pro PCI express. Heres the situation, I can purchase the the x800 XL and install it right away or I can get the x1600 but would have to buy a more powerful power supply unit (which I would be willing to do, if it gets me better graphics). Both video cards cost roughly the same amount. The x800xl has gotten nothing but good reviews, i'm unsure about it being able to play most current and future. I need a video that card mainly to play video games, any suggestion of which is the better? Thanks

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Besides that issue...
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / July 29, 2006 5:06 AM PDT

I wonder what it really comes down to for you to decide.

You can find web sites with benchmarks or just consider that it's common to pop in a new supply. It doesn't have to be expensive either. At the office we use those 25 buck 600 to 680 Watt PSUs since they are cheap and we know they couldn't possibly be 680 Watts but they are more than enough for our machines.

Bob

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x800xl is faster GPU than x1600pro but...
by ramarc / July 29, 2006 10:16 AM PDT

but where are you finding x800xl cards to be about the same price as x1600pros? an x800xl should be in the $160-$180 ballpark, and x1600pro only about $100. (don't be fooled into thinking that 512MB of RAM makes them faster 'cause it doesn't.) the x800xl does not support SM3.0 so it's not up-to-date feature wise and won't run Windows Vista's Aero interface at full tilt.
x1600pro 256MB, $100: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102651
x1600pro 512MB, $115: http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=324599
x800xl 256MB, $165:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161165

if you've got $200 to spend and must get ATI, then the x1800gto is the card to get.
x1800gto, 256MB, $205: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161004
but a good alternative in the $170 price range is a geforce 7600gt.
7600gt, 256MB, $174: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814133150
its faster than the x800xl across the board, and competitive with the x1800gto (slower by a bit but $30 cheaper). it only needs a 300W power supply so most likely you won't have to upgrade.

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RE:
by kjockie26 / July 30, 2006 1:16 AM PDT
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Nvidia Geforce
by djujecmaoseoionnn / July 30, 2006 2:18 AM PDT
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This is the better of the 2 cards.And I have use hundreds to build PCs and no problems at all. Every Ati card I install for someone they end up switching to the Nvidia. If you plan to upgrade to vista, do some reading about Geforce cards.

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geforce cards aren't reliable?
by ramarc / July 30, 2006 2:38 AM PDT
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don't know where you heard that unless you're referring to the 4 year old fx5xxx series. nvidia (and ati) gpus are quality products and there are many quality manufacturers.

if you buy directly from ati, you're paying full retail for the exact same product you can get from another manufacturer. the asus that i referred to is the least expensive x1600pro but powercolor, sapphire, diamond, and other folks also make x1600pro cards in that same price range.

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by kjockie26 / July 30, 2006 8:12 AM PDT

How would you describe the graphics on the geforce 7600gt for games like rome total war and the upcoming Medieval 2 total war (assuming you play them or know anything about them) ?

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