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Victory for common sense in legal case on Studio vs ISP.

Feb 23, 2011 1:16PM PST

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I agree to a point
Feb 24, 2011 7:51AM PST

I fully agree that ISP's shouldn't be held liable for data that traverses their networks. However, some of the statements the ISP CEO made were absurd:

"We urge the Australian film industry to address the growing demand for studio content to be delivered in a timely and cost effective manner to consumers and we remain eager to work with them to make this material available legitimately," he said in a statement."

Come on...get a clue. People who pirate movies don't give a damn whether you drop the price to some low level. They're going to steal, no matter what. That's their nature. And any attempt to sugar coat or excuse what they do is baloney, plain and simple.

Also the nonsensical remarks that "they didn't know copyrighted material was being downloaded" defies credulity.

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Your remarks on differing from the statements sound
Feb 24, 2011 11:23AM PST

like a studio executive remark to me. Al the ISP know is that a large amount of data is being downloaded. Not if it is legal or illegal content. The only way they would know that is to intercept the data stream to assess it for themselves. Lots of privacy issues there.

Their comment of they did not know copyrighted material was being downloaded is correct.
They can suspect as much as they like but they do not know.
Just as you cannot know but have come to a conclusion out of suspicion.

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Really?
Feb 25, 2011 4:39AM PST

If I were a studio exec, I'd be fighting on, first of all. I made it clear that I don't think ISP's should be held liable.

But seriously, mate -- iinet as of 2010 claims it has 520,000 broadband subscribers in Australia. 520,000. Are you really going to posit that they couldn't be 100 percent sure that at least ONE of those subscribers was illegally downloading? One? That's why the statement is absurd, and really --there's no debating that. So let's not even go there.

http://www.iinet.net.au/press/releases/20100329-iinet-acquisition-netspace.pdf