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Valentines' Day Weekend

Feb 17, 2004 9:36PM PST

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He's a Republican AND he's right!
Feb 17, 2004 9:56PM PST

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(NT) Hey, it happens.........occasionally. ;-)
Feb 18, 2004 5:50AM PST

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Re:Valentines' Day Weekend
Feb 17, 2004 9:56PM PST

#They have to be able to marry in exactly the same legal sense as heterosexuals so that all the established legal and cultural structures apply#

would it be too much to argue with Mr DAVE "is there room in that cupboard for two" DYER that what he calls "cultural structures" have been around since the days of the first marriage...

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The first marriage
Feb 18, 2004 12:31AM PST

Barring the surprise anthropological discovery or two, it's impossible to say that the first marriages were one man and one woman. It is equally likely that they were some type of polygamous marriage.

Dan

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Setting aside any religious considerations,
Feb 19, 2004 3:13AM PST

and looking just at the nature of it, it's also more possible, actually most probable, that the first marriage was one man and one woman. See how that works? Devil

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The biology is obvious
Feb 19, 2004 4:04AM PST

But marriage is a social relationship for the most part. The details of early human societies are beyond knowing at this point. It's quite possible that a variety of arrangements were in use in contemporaneous early societies.

Dan

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I still think...........
Feb 18, 2004 6:44AM PST

..roommates have more fun !

Too often, 'marriage' is like ordering in a new
restaurant for the first time. You see what someone
else is being served, ...and realize you should have
waited and looked around.

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Not everyone can marry a twin.
Feb 19, 2004 3:14AM PST
Wink
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Poor guy, senility set in early.
Feb 19, 2004 2:14AM PST

He claims to be Republican. Any way to check the voter roles in Houston to see if it's true or not? Sounds like a Democrat in Republican clothes.

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There are millions of people in the Republican party
Feb 19, 2004 2:37AM PST

Occasionally you're bound to run into one who has an open mind. It happens. Don't worry; he's still in the minority on your side of the aisle.

Wink

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The thing is Josh,
Feb 19, 2004 3:10AM PST

I used to argue the points about homosexuality and "gay marriage" years ago at CNN and NYT forums, and it was almost laughable how many "posers" would popup claiming to be a "compassionate conservative" or "moderate Republican" and write something so completely similar to this. More often or not the very culprit doing it was eventually unmasked through phraseology. Of course when caught at it, their excuse was about as valid as Sharpton's on the Brawley non-rape, "it could have been...". The gay groups are going all over the place, writing in and pretending to be "understanding" people of every political persuasion, passing themselves off as someone else, just to distort the public perception of their sinful lifestyle becoming more acceptable to the public. One thing I've noted is that so many of them have spent enough years lying about their sexuality before "coming out", they seem to find it only to easy to engage in lying all the time now when it suits their purpose.

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(NT) So you're saying the writer must be lying about being a Republican?
Feb 19, 2004 3:46AM PST

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Not "must be" but "might be". (nt)
Feb 19, 2004 3:56AM PST

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Well perhaps we'll get an answer from Mr. Dyer himself
Feb 19, 2004 4:06AM PST

I just e-mailed him and asked him if he'd be interested in commenting on your suggestion that he might be deliberately misrepresenting his party affiliation. Let's see if he responds.

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He replied to my e-mail
Feb 19, 2004 12:07PM PST
I'm a republican because I value limited government and free enterprise. I also really support Bush's foreign policy. I think Clinton's attempt to appease the terrorists was a vast mistake that led to 9/11, and Bush's plan to attack them in their home has kept our country safe.

I can't make you believe he really wrote to me, and I can't make you believe what he wrote, but here it is.
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Re:He replied to my e-mail
Feb 19, 2004 8:53PM PST

Don't know what his motivation on the gay "marriage" issue is then. Maybe a close family member or friend that he doesn't want to offend.

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Re:Re:He replied to my e-mail
Feb 19, 2004 9:45PM PST

Maybe he wrote what he believes.

Dan

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You make it easy for yourself to ignore anything that way.
Feb 19, 2004 4:06AM PST

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