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Use wireless router as access point !

Mar 24, 2006 5:54AM PST

I have 3 machines connected to a Netgear RP114 ethernet router and the 4th switch is used for a long cable across the room to a Belkin F5D7230-4 wirless router to take care of 2 machines on the other side of the house. Both routers have DHCP active I believe. Everything works fine except the Belkin has no security except WEP. Can anyone give me advice as to a router that can act as an acess point and has WPA security? I realize I will have to change adapter cards in the machines but I am no expert at setting up a router like this so don't get to complicated on me.<g>

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wireless router as WAP
Mar 24, 2006 11:06AM PST

Most newer big name wireless routers can funtion as a WAP. You need to turn off/disable DHCP on the WAP. Usually, routers that can function as a WAP explicitly state this in their manuals and tell you how to do it.

Internet ---- modem ---- router ---- wireless router (WAP) ~ - ~ - ~ computers

---- wired
~ - ~ - ~ wired and/or wireless

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Wireless router as WAP
Mar 24, 2006 11:16AM PST

If I turned off the DHCP of the wireless router, or WAP, where would the wireless machines in the other side of the house get there IP adresses from?

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from the other router
Mar 24, 2006 11:51AM PST

Internet ---- modem ---- router1 ---- router2 (WAP) ~ - ~ - ~ computers

For most small seutps, you only want one DHCP server per network. I would enale the DHCP server on ROUTER1 and disable it on ROUTER2. Assign ROUTER2 a static IP address. The DHCP server on ROUTER1 should handle all IP address assignment regardless of which router/access point the computers are attached.

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According to the manual...
Mar 24, 2006 11:17AM PST

...that router should have WEP and WPA available.

It also has instructions in the 133 page manual on using it as a Wireless Access Point (WAP). See the section: ''Using the Access Point Mode''

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Must have different manuals
Mar 24, 2006 12:00PM PST

Thanks for the reply. My manual only has 99 pages so we must be talking about different versions or models. This is about 4 or 5 years old and is Belkin model F5D7230-4 Version1000. It is for WinXP however. The manual only mentions WEP 64 & 128bit encryption. It has 2 verticle antennas.

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update firmware
Mar 24, 2006 2:30PM PST

I see 3 versions of the F5D7230-4 on the USA site (unnumbered, 3000, and 4000). All of those have WEP and WPA; however, they do seem to have only one antenna.

You say it's 4-5 years old. I think the only thing I would do is download and install the latest firmware for that model to check to see if it adds WPA capability. Just so you are aware--WPA is also crackable.

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Upgrade firmware
Mar 25, 2006 5:20AM PST

Thanks linkit, I agree that is the next logical thing to do. I am well aware that WPA is ''crackable'' but this has been running for 3 years or so with NO protection so I feel I should make some attempt to protect the wireless side of the network. Actually by not using the Belkin as an access point and using it's DHCP it really makes two different networks. Other side uses different workgroup and SSID. My side fairly well protected behind Netgear router and Zone Alarm.(knock on wood).

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IP networks?
Mar 25, 2006 6:56AM PST

Not sure what you mean when you say that you have two networks.

Do you have two diffeent IP networks, say 192.168.1.xxx and 10.1.10.xxx, with two active DHCP servers?

..or do you have one IP network with more than one Windows workgroup and more than one SSID?

If you are doing what you want and it works, go for it. If you have connection/IP assignment problems in the future, the first place I would look is at the fact you have 2 DHCP servers on one network. Troublesome for most.

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I P Networks
Mar 26, 2006 4:26AM PST

I have a broadband modem connected to a Netgear RP114 (non-wireless) router. Three computers are plugged into this router and the Belkin wireles routers WAN port. The three computers form one workgroup or network ?? and the 2 wireless computers that operate off the Belkin use a different workgroup name and set of IP's. They all do share the same subnet mask. I think of this as 2 different networks because neither side can ''see'' or share with the other, however I don't know if that is correct terminology.