US police handcuff five-year-old

... you only saw the ending couple of minutes. The job of the cops is not to to be social workers. They weren't exactly rough with her. They evacuated the rest of the class and spent at least a half hour trying to talk her down. She WANTED to be taken out of the school (that's been reported to be "her side" to be on Current Affair tonight). She got her wish.

Evie

Yep, it's called "manipulation."
That's where the parents s/b brought in. Sad thing, esp. for the boys, is they never learn the benefits of not manipulating- until the 9mm police round that ends it all for them.
Regards, Doug in New Mexico

I don't believe she was considered "arrested" in that regard. She was being restrained. Therefore, the Miranda Rights would not apply.

As far as "age" goes in regard to handcuff restraint, I don't know. I'm sure it probably deals more with the behavior in question, and whether restraint is necessary for protection of "self or others."

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Personal and Professional Obligations of the Cop


If you were the cop in this scenario, which of the two would you first apply?

Personal reasons:

TAKING CHANCES to apply diplomacy where handcuffing may not be necessary?

Professional Obligations:

NOT TAKING CHANCES, immediately making assumption of possible inevitable danger and harm?


CL

under the category of Personal reasons:

Exercising flexibility and in the same token a serious hint - "warning".


CL

Keep your word to this child. It is probably a new experience for her.

Okay.


CL

... when the other psychobabble "talking down" had failed (for at least a half an hour).

Scenario: Instead of cuffing, cop grabs her firmly by the arm and leads her to the car to bring her home. Girl wriggles away and runs out into the street, gets hit by a car ...

Another scenario: Cop (worse if white) tightens grip to keep her from getting away. Poor little African-American girl ends up with bruises ...

Nobody can win the way the idiotic system is set up. Only real alternative is to have a rubber holding room, and someone will find something wrong with that as well.

Poor little African-American girl ends up with bruises ..."

Do you really mean that you feel poor little African-American girl or do you say it in a condescending way?To me it sounds very condescending as if African-Americans were to complain more simply because they are African-American.I realize that there are a lot of complaints from the black community,but there also is a reason for it too.The abuse and the "bad judgments" and "mistakes" made by white cops(which are a majority that are involved in those cases)usually takes place against black people.

... Sharpton is already making asinine comments and although race appears to be far from the issue, it should surprise no one that the card is being played.

If you can find any,I would appreciate it.And do you have any reason to believe the opposite?If so, let me know.I am almost sure that most of the police abuse is against blacks by white cops.But once again,I have not found any site that even deals with the issue!If you believe that I am wrong,please let me know why and if possible you may as well find a site where you can prove me wrong.

... that even deals with the issue? So basically you pulled "facts" out of your posterior end. I'll not waste my time doing your homework for you. So-called race "hate crimes" adjusted proportionally for percentages in the population actually demonstrate a far greater incidence of black-on-white crime than the reverse. You'll no doubt find a bunch of statistics for white-on-black police brutality, seek out the ones that correct for representation in the police force and population in general.

The black population has been conditioned to play the race card by the likes of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Just like women will ply their wiles to escape traffic tickets, so too there are a plethora of examples of black criminals playing the race card to avoid punishment (O.J. is just the king). That was my initial point in using the sarcasm. It was only a matter of time before Al or Jesse or some surrogate tried to turn this into a race issue, and HAD the cops tried to restrain her (their JOB!) other ways and left bruises the fur would have flown.

I hope Current Affair paid the Mom well for selling her child

This was about white cops with "bad judgements" affecting black people.Not crime in general.

Long Live the Black Panthers!

... and biases in the statistics. Just pointing that out.

I couldn't find any sites on it.I just wanted to see the stats for the police violence.If that is included in the crime stats it's impossible to come up with numbers on it.But maybe that's why it is included.

You'll find plenty of sites on it. Try Google. Even plenty that will on their face seem to support your accusation. On second thought, don't bother. It would waste my time to have to refute their twisted statistics.

black than a white cop. Black cops are accused of abuse just as much, if not more so, than white cops. That is not saying that either race of cop is guilty. I think you're operating with some unsupported biases.

I was referring to Evie's post and not to the video clip.

should:

1. Be ashamed of themselves.
2. Look around to see what damage they're doing to the community and its people.
3. Check behind them frequently to be sure their police protection is still in place.

If you spend too much time in a lose-lose state, you stop trying and give up.