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What am I missing here?
"Deyvani Khobragade was accused of paying her Indian housekeeper far less than she had claimed on a visa application"
Why were NY police bothered about what an Indian diplomat claimed she paid a worker on a visa application?
I didn't get that one either
I didn't know foreign workers on visa to serve at a diplomat's house was under the same wage laws as US Citizens.
evidently they are, though I never thought about it
I wonder if lying on the visa application about the wage compounds the illegality and raises other legal issues about falsifying documents etc.
However, I don't see crimes of this nature needing this extreme a response.
Another case of just following the rules? sensible or not?
Since when can Diplomats
be arrested? I have never heard of this before. Usually, even if they commit a violent crime all we can do is send them home.
she was here on a visa
not a diplomat passport I guess.
Let's send John Kerry, Biden and Reid to India and see what happens
the housekeeper was definately on a visa, but
the employer is named as a deputy consul general, which is certainly an officious sounding title. The embassy claims she does have diplomatic immunity.
The State Department claims her immunity is limited to functions in line with her consular duties. I never heard of immunity restrictions before. However my knowledge is limited to hearsay, tv news, even the false world of movies or tv drama where the rules would be adjusted to fit the plot.
I ran into a couple of cases up here, where the immunity
isn't absolute but is indeed tied to their duties. Yes, they can park anywhere they want and ignore the tickets because they will say that the trip and the parking were connected to consular duties, but the old Television and Movie "Diplomatic Immunity" line is far more complex than Hollywood makes it out to be. It may even be true that should an Ambassador commit a murder, he would either be discharged by the country represented by the Ambassador, or may be liable owing to "extreme and extra-consular circumstances".
depends on the country and if he was working
for secret agencies and agendas or not whether they would turn an official over or just recall the official no matter what the crime.
I'm not expert, not even near it, but
I think it's pretty normal that not all involved with an embassy to have immunity. I thought that was pretty well set by the embassy senior members up to the ambassador when they bought people into the country. I thought they submitted a list, or notified state department for additions, and those had to be approved by the state department before they were granted status.
This story says only senior diplomats, but I never heard that distinction before this.
This is beyond stupid.
The rules are simple, and everyone knows them - except, apparently, the U.S. government; accredited diplomats are accorded immunity and cannot be treated in this manner unless the diplomat's government removes his or her diplomatic status. If not, then the only really acceptable response is to declare the diplomat persona non grata and expel him or her.
This action opens the door to similar actions against American diplomatic personnel in India and elsewhere. I'm stunned that this Administration, which has gone out of its way make kissy face with every Third World government it sees while dissing long time allies such as Great Britain, Canada, Germany and especially Israel, would do this.
While I think the rules about immunity need review.....
.....I agree that the treatment of this woman was excessive given the nature of the accusation against her. It's not like she was accused of a violent crime (for which diplomatic immunity should not apply).
It's just a resurgence of the frontier mentality being pushd
by Teapublicans. They're so ill informed they think Indians from India are Native American "Indians" and they're Custer and the Seventh Cavalry.
Not are they historically illiterate which I bemoan all the time, they're geographically illiterate, and operate in the Palin/Bachman/Cruz et al Fact Free Zone.
you have absolutely nothing
to back that up other than your prejudiced blatherings.
"Teapublicans. They're so ill informed they think Indians from India are Native American "Indians" and they're Custer and the Seventh Cavalry."
Now that's totally out of park left field.