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Upgrading Speco DVR System that has IDE Hard Drive

Okay so I have an older model Speco Technologies DVR System that has 16 channels (cameras) it currently has a 500GB IDE Hard Drive in it, I am very familiar with computers and desktops, as well as taking them apart and putting them back together. I didn't even think twice when I ordered a new 2TB SATA Hard Drive to add to the DVR System as to allow more storage for recording time. The old Hard Drive is an IDE and the one I ordered is a SATA. There are already ribbons and cables for a secondary IDE Hard Drive, there is also a power cable for a SATA but no Data cable for the sata as it is the old IDE Ribbon that is already with the machine. I want to know if I buy the converter (the IDE to SATA converter) will it accept the SATA Hard Drive, or will it reject it? also I would be leaving the existing IDE Hard Drive, just adding the SATA along with it. I can send the SATA HDD back to disctech, although the largest IDE/PATA HDD they have is 500GB when I really want a few TeraBytes instead. I can't load the cctv forums their website is down or something. I just need to know if the adapter will suffice or if it's not even worth odering the adapter and playing around waiting when I only have 30 days to return the SATA HDD I just bought. Also could I just buy a SATA data cable and use that along with the SATA power cable that is already provided in the DVR ( I don't know why it has the IDE ribbons/power cord as well as a random SATA power cable without the SATA data cable) (unless it was for the hbyrid IDE/SATA/PATA Hard Drives) I'm at a loss and I need help, anyone who can help I really truly do appreciate your response and opinion. Thanks

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Back to Speco.

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While I worked on similar other brands a few years ago, it's usually not supported to swap a drive like that.

At 16 channels I'd think about reducing the channel count or frame rate since most incidents are caught at a lowly 1 frame per second.

Also, if you are getting more than a day on that drive, you again have more than enough time to get your evidence video out.

With that out of the way, even when I worked on these, very few would use more than one drive. Very few.

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So the adapter wouldn't work?

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I can upload a picture of the insides of the DVR system, it records for about 3 days, we only have 12 cameras being used out of the 16 camera capability. The main drive can be pulled out without taking the top off, it slides out if you take the front cover off and pull (almost like a desktop HDD) but I had to change the power supply a year ago and thats when I noticed the extra space for another HDD, it already has the existing IDE/PATA ribbons/power cables connected from the power supply/motherboard. Clearly it can accept another IDE Hard Drive, but I just ordered the IDE to SATA Adapter, hoping I can use that to connect it to the MotherBoard, but the largest IDE they make is 750GB when in reality that wouldn't help much. The cameras are set to Motion so that they only start recording when motion is picked up, my samsung 16ch DVR at our other business (it's a newer one from SamsClub) it has 1TB capacity and is set to continuous recording where it tops out at 1 month of recordings. The Speco system tops out at a few days of recording and just isn't sufficent. I just don't understand why the ribbons/power cables are already hooked up to the motherboard (just not hooked up to a Hard Drive) and there is a cable that plugs into the SATA Drive, but theres no SATA data cable, there's just a SATA Power cable, as well as the IDE ribbons and IDE power cable.

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Sorry

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I've seen the insides of far too many surveillance DVRs. One of my jobs included trips overseas to meet and work with makers to correct issues with these things. There are some thousand plus of these things used over the years so I'm unsure of what a picture would do here.

You need to just try it and see or upgrade the dvr. These are now widely available and a lot cheaper than the one you bought years ago.

Maybe you can drop the camera count to say 4 on this old one and get over a week record time. The the new DVR takes over the other 8 and with 1TB+ being the norm you are now at over a week record time.

Again, I find it odd to want longer record times as events tend to happen and we pull the video in less than a day.

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Thank

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I wanted to show a picture so that you could see that there was an existing space to add a new Hard Drive, I wasn't talking about swapping the IDE for a SATA, I wanted to use the extra space they provide (along with the extra IDE data/power cables) to either use an adapter (IDE to SATA) to connect the SATA to the IDE connections, or to simply use a SATA data cable along with the random SATA Power cable (it's along with the IDE ribbon and IDE power cable already there) to power and connect the new SATA drive (while keeping the original IDE Hard Drive in place) so just as to add the new SATA (no swapping). I already bought the adapter so I'm going to give it a try, i also ordered the SATA data cable considering the power cable is already provided along with the IDE cables, and there is an extra port on the motherboard for the SATA cable, there is just no cable present. The camera system is old, 10 years old maybe, but it cost over $5,000 at the time brand new, I just want to increase the recording time without messing with the cameras or recording quality, I need more storage space because of the thefts, sometimes its weeks before the inventory and too late once I find what is missing.

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Very very few back then took a second drive.

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What we need to do is to read the manual for this one. Even back in early days where they used IDE they would publish a PDF manual. Let's read that.

That 5000 was about what I remember back then. Today, 99 bucks for 4 camera unit sans HDD which runs about 99 bucks.

I run into folk that want to milk the old DVR forever so I understand that. Me? For the price of your IDE big drive, or sata and adapters you can be upgrading today.

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