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Upgrading a Dell's Video Card

Nov 14, 2005 10:47AM PST

I was looking at buying a Dell e310 for a very good price but the problem is I can't upgrade the video card. I don't know much about computers but I was thinking of buying it and upgrading a video card on my own. How do I find out if it is compatible with the video card I will get?

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RE:
Nov 14, 2005 11:31AM PST

Sorry no pci-express slot in that machine. Only pci- which is pretty crappy. Since you're upgrading, think you a gamer? If so, you should just forget about the dell or look at higher model. Look at either emachine t6524 or HP a1250n(cheapest i saw at my local store was $600 for computer alone). BOTH come with amd athlon 64s. Especially HP which is dual-core. 1GB Ram, 200GB Hard drive (HP IS 250) DVD BURNER, DVD-ROM, etc...

ROger

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processor though
Nov 14, 2005 11:38AM PST

The HP looks nice except it has a 2.2 processor I want something faster

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NO NO NO
Nov 14, 2005 11:40AM PST

the 2.2 ghz Athlon 64 3200+ is equivalent to 3.2GHz P4. NOW THE HP HAS TWO OF THEM... Not working simultaneosuly but still good. DUAL CORE IS VERY important if you want the computer to last.

ROger

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Thanks, but what about....
Nov 14, 2005 11:52AM PST

O thanks, what about not a dual core but just an AMD Athlon(TM) 64 3500+ (2.2GHz / 512KB L2 cache)? How would that compare to a pentium 4?

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DON'T LISTEN TO EVERYONE, READ THIS, IMPORTANT INFO
Nov 14, 2005 12:54PM PST

Look there are to types of graphics cards. New current cards that use a PCI express slot or an older cards that use an AGP slot. There are great cards out there that use AGP but AGP cards are no longer being made because of PCI express cards. With a PCI express card, you not only get cards with better gaming performance but can have 2 graphics cards working together which is called SLI. It all depends if you are a hardcore gamer looking for the best performance. Check if your Dell has an AGP slot. There are 2 types of AGP slots, the 4x and the 8x (of course 8x is better). What you can do is get your Dell, and replace your motherboard so that you can get PCI express slots. The problem with that is you need to get the right motherboard that supports your processor. I highly suggest you get a motherboard with a socket 939 (for AMD processors) because AMD makes better processors than INTEL. With a socket 939, you can get a crappy AMD processor now (there was one that cost $170.00)and later upgrade to say a dual core or an FX. But of course there are motherboards that have SLI and support Intel processors. You have to check the motherboard and the processors it can take. Different boards take different processors. You have to check the sockets. It all depends what you want. If you are a hard core gamer you can opt for a computer(or motherboard) that has 2 PCI express slots for SLI, or if you are an average gamer you can opt for a card that uses an AG slot. Memory matters as 1 gb is the sweet spot. Games aren't heavily dependent on the processor, so an average processor will do fine. REMEMBER IF YOU DO GET A MOTHERBOARD THAT HAS SLI CAPABILITIES, THEN YOU DO NOT NEED TO GET 2 GRAPHICS CARDS AT THAT TIME. YOU CAN GET ONE CARD NOW AND ANOTHER LATER. IF YOU DO GET SLI CARDS, THE CARDS MUST HAVE THE SAME MODEL NUMBER AND SAME COMPANY IT WAS MADE FROM, LIKE SAY TWO BFG'S 7800 GTX GRAPHICS CARDS WOULD WORK IN AN SLI FORM. THERE ARE BOARDS THAT JUST HAVE ONE PCI EXPRESS SLOT.

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SORRY MADE MISTAKE
Nov 14, 2005 12:58PM PST

For the first sentence i meant to say two types of graphics cards not "to".

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SLI/ Crossfire Is useless
Nov 17, 2005 1:22PM PST

Only for hardcore gamers, as the difference in performance is not worth the price. When you can wait and buy a single gfx card cheaper, and better than two.

Roger

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also the guy doesnt know much about computers
Nov 17, 2005 2:22PM PST

so how can he do such a hard upgrade?

the best thing would be to get the hp or emachines then upgrade to a decent gfx card such as the 6600, assuming he does not play all of the newest games at max settings. he can get a nvidia 6600 for about $100. i think most of the time the psu can handle it. but if not then he would have to upgrade the psu. but hp usually offers like 6800 or 6600 on a 400watt psu and 6600 and 6200 on lower models with 300watt psu. so i think it can handle.

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What are you talking about?
Nov 18, 2005 5:35AM PST

He/she wants to know how to upgrade, he/she doesn't want to know about PSUs.

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Example of why you don't buy from alienware...
Nov 18, 2005 5:44AM PST

Dells use propritary psus from pc power & cooling. If he wants to upgrade his gfx card, depending on which card to be upgraded to, you would need to buy a new psu. Now, if you want even a 6600gt for example, which is not even that high-end gfx, more like low-end as 6600GTs can be purchased for around $120 after rebates, it will probably require a psu upgrade just to be safe. ANything below a 6600GT, expect to play recent games at low settings, if you can play at all. So if he were to upgrade to a 6600GT, or even higher end card for his dell, he would need a new psu. If he didn't the +12V would probably not supply enough AMPS for the system leading to lockups/unstable systems...

Roger