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Compare a gun to a machete?

Next you'll compare a machete to plastic eating utensils?

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mental note to self

JP Bill prefers being hacked to death instead of shot. You do realize a sword or machete cut can cause more blood loss quicker than from most bullets used in street guns?

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Who brings a knife/machete to a gunfight?

A person has a better change running from a person with a machete than to run from a person with a gun.

Using a much more personal.

RE:You do realize a sword or machete cut can cause more blood loss

THEY have to catch ME first and their footing won't be as good as mine is...I won't go into details about this factoid....

it won't pass the forum filters.

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Then there's this.
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Wrong, Dafydd.
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Sorry Doug.

Just my opinion on my own country.

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And, it would have to be in Enfield.
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Got some work for you, James.

I went to your "voice of europe" link.
No "about" link on the home page; no brick and mortar address; anonymous and unaccountable ownership.
The stories lack all evidence of competent journalism.

I read the one on the 'gang rape of 11-yr-old girl' - same thing. In trying to track down any credible version of that story, I came across this from the BBC, which explains much.
Less than a half hour; listen to it before expecting me to read any more from your clickhate - sorry, clickbait channels.

The worldwide increase in non-gun violence - which is NOT news to informed people - is further proof that laws about hardware will have no effect on the problem, which begins with the human heart. As your Bible tells you.
Only a government which can address that failing can have any success. As your Bible tells you.
You're commanded by your god to pray for that government to come on the earth, yet you spend your time advocating man's rule and rules. Foolish on the face of it.

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you need to read the real bible

I Timothy 2 - 1"First of all, then, I urge that petitions, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be offered on behalf of all men 2 for kings and all those in authority, so that we may lead tranquil and quiet lives in all godliness and dignity. 3 This is good and pleasing in the sight of God our Savior,…"

Romans 13:1
"Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which is from God. The authorities that exist have been appointed by God."

1 Peter 2:13
"Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;"

You fail in these things Doug. Also my link was about machete attack in UK and YOU send me to a link about Sweden. Do you know the difference between where they are, and do you know they are totally different countries?

Had you bothered with a simple search, you'd not have embarassed yourself in this manner. Machete Attack in Birmingham UK, pick your source.

So, now before you again lead off the subject so you can whine to Lee or a moderator to Lock the Thread again.....

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Your "teachings" are trumped (!) by Acts 5:29

"In answer Peter and the other apostles said: 'We must obey God as ruler rather than men.'"
This has worked for us every time we've been opposed by man's governments. Hitler, Stalin, Wilson ... Developing anew in Venezuela.
Thanks for the Birmingham links. The Sweden story comes from the same site, your link. My comments refer to that and other stories there. Why didn't you use one of the several MSM links yourself? At least they have the marks of real journalism.

Anonymous reporting, including from one "Free market shooter"! Are these people video gamers when they're not giving us "uncensored news"?

We take Mt 6:9,10 to be the only "pledge of allegiance" we want or need. Where is your allegiance?

Your OP is about gun control by man's governments. Daily news proves the truth of my last two ¶. Man cannot solve man's problems.

"Whining"? Where? Here it is:
"Since this is my OP, I don't mind _suggesting_ it's time to lock it for off-topic ... My aim was the personal side of the situation, not the hardware. _I'm not usually in favor of locks_ ..."
Mods did in fact lock it with no further conversation.
And you missed this:
"Also, there's a personal reason: It's wearing out my finger to scroll through the pages on my phone. Happy" Four phone "pages", in fact.

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Get a desktop!

Tired of hearing about your crappy phone & lazy finger. It's not CNET's fault you won't get a decent computer to use instead. Phones are for making calls, Computers are for going online, if serious about it. Your bible passage only backs up exactly the "teachings" which are not mine, but Apostles Peter and Paul, without a Mary.

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You commanded; I listened.

Does your PC have a WP that handles prepositions?

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It has an intelligent operator...

....who knows the difference in placement of a period, a comma, or a space.


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(NT) You mentioned commas before. ???
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I'm fairly certain you remember....

....that grammatical error in the NWT version of the NT.

Luke chapter 2

One of the criminals who were hanged there kept deriding him and saying, “Are you not the Messiah? Save yourself and us!” But the other rebuked him, saying, “Do you not fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? And we indeed have been condemned justly, for we are getting what we deserve for our deeds, but this man has done nothing wrong.” Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise.”

And the NWT changed "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise" to " "Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise"

IN order to deny that very selfsame day both Jesus and the repentant thief would be together in Paradise, and to mislead others into thinking Jesus was only telling him on that day, as if they both didn't know it was "today" so false doctrine that it would be some far future time they would be in Paradise together. I went over how stupid that misplaced comma was, since there are NO commas in the original Greek scriptures.

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I remember that discussion well.

No need to re-cast scriptural pearls before you.
The common error made by you go-to-heaven types is listed in your post itself.
You speak the truth in part, and use it to support the lie.
Like the teacher at Gen 3:1 ff.
As with the Paradise restored topic [Jehovah's, not Milton's], you've seen the truth and have rejected it.

Therefore, no reason to mention commas again. But you will, as irrelevantly as always. Happy

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Therefore, no reason to mention commas again. But you will, as irrelevantly as always. Happy

Such errors should always be pointed out, so long as you or others continue to espouse them.
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No error of ours shown.

Here's yours. "I went over how stupid that misplaced comma was, since there are NO commas in the original Greek scriptures."
Correct; there are none in the oldest [uncial] mss. Therefore a comma in any Bible is inserted, it can't be misplaced. The KJV people didn't misplace an existing comma, they put it where it matched their false theology - that people die and go immediately to heaven.
We put ours where it's in harmony with the rest of scriptural teaching, like "the sign of Jonah" and the true condition of the dead until resurrection.

Mt 12:28-42; Ec 9:5.10; John 6:39,40,44,54; 11:24.

Congratulations. You've found one error; only 20,000 to go. How's that 1John 5 research coming?

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Budget cuts

In the article, it's mentioned "Facing budget cuts and a short-staffed police force". I haven't followed politics for a while, but feel very concerned by the rise of violent crimes. Can anybody explain what exactly 'caused these budget cuts that affected police force?

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I'm not up on the details, but Britain is a socialist

country. High tax rate, high level of puvlic services. [National Health Service a prime example.]
Running a police service is much more expensive in these terrorist days, and labor is the most expensive part of any business. Budget cut? Terminate some officers, or stop hiring.

The French, in a similar system, are in the streets over higher petrol prices, due to increased taxes.

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As to the general system of government funding,

here's an incidental quote from a BBC piece on British expats in a French village.

"The English give work to each other," one says. Another blames EU rules that allow "posted workers" to escape France's high social security contributions.

The US has a reasonably good Social Security system, but I've never heard of its paycheck deductions being referred to this way.
Check the gasoline prices in any European country. They've always been high due to taxes.
Renault has been making what we might call a cave man car - nasty, brutish and short - for decades, called the 2CV. Look up why it's called that, and the reason for its popularity.

Socialism has its benefits, but it is expensive.

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"Socialism has its benefits, but it is expensive."

So expensive that countries literally fail quite quickly under those governments....begging for OTHER countries to bail them out (usually for 'humanitarian' pleas) with loans that they again can't repay and the cycle continues because they never learn the lessons they keep repeating. The biggest problem is that once you start giving free stuff, people get used to it and revolt when the smarter government officials try to cut back on them....then newer 'progressive' leaders are elected in order to keep those freebies coming and it starts all over again. And most times, ONLY those leaders reap the benefits (in grand style on top of it) while the people suffer.

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Jacques Tati's film Mon Oncle needed to show

the uncle character as wealthy. So, the script put him in a late-model - not new - Chevy V-8.
You can see 2CVs and 4CVs in Tati's Hulot films.

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You mean Citroen, don't you?

I would see them in the US in the '60s. They had a 2 cycle engine which meant adding oil to the gasoline. Following one of these when they took off from a stop light was hazardous to one's lungs.

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I think you're right. Both companies made

them, but the Citroen was more popular.
It meant two cheval vapeur, or horsepower. That was the taxable amount. Suppose the government agency involved determined that 30 hp were needed to move the car around in practical uses. If the engine put out 32, you were taxed on the "excess". 2 hp was the target for these things. I think. Happy
The uncle's Chevy was of course taxed on much more, not to mention the mandated vigorish at the gas pump. Which is what the Yellow Jackets are all about now.

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And, how did we get from gun control to Jacques Tati?

I was giving a courtesy illustrative reply to Toni, without engaging the rest of the rhetoric.
I rather liked the lines of the Citroen. Functional. And of course their top of the line sedan is high art, to many of us.

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Gun control?

My mistake. I thought it was "gunning control" which could be self-discipline regarding use of the accelerator? That would be quite a challenge when driving the old Citroen. Saab also made a 2-cycle engined car and I have some recollection of those as well. Being that the engine fires on every revolution, their exhaust note was quite different from that of 4-cycle engines...more like an old Suzuki 50cc motor bike.

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