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Trouble

May 1, 2019 2:05AM PDT

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From what I remember about that hearing
May 1, 2019 2:49AM PDT

that is referenced with two Dem Congressmen, Barr was also asked if Mueller had seen Barr's summary before it was released, he responded something to the effect that Barr had asked Mueller if he wanted to see it and Mueller said 'no'. The article itself (according to the actual letter) states that Mueller had no problem with the summary, but that he had a problem with how the MEDIA was interpreting and reporting it. So, is Mueller the real liar here? He didn't have evidence to prove obstruction and left it up to Barr to decide....Barr AND Rosenstein AND an attorney went over Mueller's report and ALL concluded there was no obstruction.

Anybody with half a brain knows, after reading Mueller's report, that the evidence proved no collusion within six months after starting that investigation and that Mueller should have ended it there. The ONLY reason Mueller went on was to justify his position and the money being spent by trapping people connected to Trump and attempt to get them to lie about Trump. When that didn't work, the next 'best' thing would be to try to prove obstruction by Trump.....which didn't happen. He didn't fire Mueller or Rosenstein (who should have recused himself early on because you can't be a prosecutor AND a possible witness since HE'S the one who wrote the termination letter for Comey at the same time) and Mueller should have also recused himself because HE interviewed for the Comey FBI job the DAY BEFORE being appointed and was turned down by Trump. How many FBI people (like Stzrock, McCabe, Baker, Lisa, etc. do you think would have been fired if Mueller had gotten that job?)

Mueller's obstruction report is nothing more than a signal to Congress that he was giving them some very shaky and thin grounds for possible impeachment....even though Trump NEVER stopped the investigation and supplied not only ALL of the documents Mueller wanted, complete access to hundreds of witnesses, including the WH counsel for over 30 hours, and never once invoked executive privilege. Complaining publicly over a witch hunt isn't obstruction....or BO would have ended up in court for his constant defense of HILL and saying in numerous interviews that he knew nothing about her criminal behavior...with not a 'smidgeon' of wrong doing on her part.

I suspect that the only one in trouble over all of this is going to be Mueller in the long run.....Trump will never be impeached and will be re-elected in a year and a half.

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Impeached
May 1, 2019 3:44AM PDT

Unless the dems can find a smoking gun they will not get the repubs to go along with that.

Next election the voters will say if they want someone who thinks rules and laws don't apply to them and is a perpetual liar for another 4 yrs.

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Two things....
May 1, 2019 9:30AM PDT

Your first sentence.....you guys have been begging for a smoking gun unsuccessfully for nearly 3 years.

Second sentence.....that easily pointed to HILL but now will be pointed at Biden if he even gets close to the nomination, which doesn't seem likely, unless they want another HILL as a candidate.

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Smoking gun
May 1, 2019 1:50PM PDT

I doubt the dems will get the Don to willingly give them that.
Perhaps the plan is to keep Alibaba and the forty thieves...the Don and his crew....in the news until the next election.

Biden?.....anyone who has been in politics as long as he has will have a bucket load of wrong decisions that were made in the past.

Times change and past decisions will prove wrong.

Hill?.....bad pick from the start and allowed the conman to step in.

You pick....Biden or AOC for the next prez?

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Your first sentence......
May 2, 2019 1:55AM PDT

If Congressional Dems opened investigations into YOU with NO specific crime named and just went on an investigatory rant into a PERSON in order to try to FIND a crime, would YOU voluntarily hand over a gun to shoot you with? As you stated...."anyone who has been in politics as long as he has will have a bucket load of wrong decisions that were made in the past"....and if you think that anyone in a successful business world for years doesn't also know the politics of getting that done, you're nuts. Just ask people like Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Zuckerburger, Wynn, etc. Dig deep enough, WITHOUT anything but a SUSPICION rather than an actual CRIME, and you'll find something, even if it's that you jaywalked when you were 25.

As for the next prez…..Trump. The Dems don't stand a chance for 2020. Their ONLY hope for a nominee is Biden because the entire rest of the cast are insane, and the Dems won't allow another HILL type so he's out already, even if he didn't have the Chinese and Ukrainian money connections.....he has too much BO baggage that he's dragging around and can't separate himself from any of it.

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Hillary is already setting herself up....
May 2, 2019 2:48AM PDT

....to become Biden's VP if he wins the nomination. That's why she's become so vocal and making noise lately, to "prove" she's still in the game. If she can't "break that glass ceiling" as President, she can still do it as a VP. There's no guarantee Biden would pick her, but knowing the Clintons, they can threaten to destroy his chances unless she's the VP choice. Would it happen? Damned if I know, but never put anything past the Clintons.

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Fishing
May 2, 2019 3:00AM PDT

The dems are on a fishing trip.
If they can snag something fine.
If they snag nothing fine.

The real purpose of the fishing trip is to keep showing the voters that we have a 12 yr old driving the bus.
Come 2020 the voters will decide if they want to keep a 12 yr old driving the bus for another 4 yrs.

Biden? Warts and all seems to be the best pick from the other loony's the dems have offered.

Lots of time left for this drama to play out.