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Took 12 years but they're finally getting wise.

Opinion polls show Stephen Harper with a strong lead over heading into Monday's Canadian elections.

The Liberal Party's Paul Martin currently leads the Canadian government, but he faces a strong challenge in the upcoming elections.

Canada appears ready to turn to the right in upcoming national elections
By Doug Struck

The Washington Post

BURLINGTON, Ontario ? Rob Hlohinec, 58, doesn't see what's so bad about Americans. He even admits to knowing some.

"I've talked to Americans. They want the same things we want," Hlohinec said as he watched a Conservative Party campaign rally.

At his side, Irene Heller, 82, agreed. She said that was one reason she would vote to replace the government headed by the Liberal Party's Paul Martin in Canadian national elections on Monday. Martin, she said, uses anti-Americanism to try to win votes.

"He gets votes when he knocks America, and I don't approve of that," said Heller, who braved a sleet storm to attend the rally.

Conservative leader Stephen Harper holds a strong lead in public-opinion polls, fueled largely by dissatisfaction with 12 years of Liberal rule. Among the dissatisfied are voters unhappy with the growing divide between Canada and the United States.



"The Liberal Party, with 133 seats in the 308-seat House of Commons, has been in power 12 years. The Liberals won majority victories in 1993, 1997 and 2000, helped by vote-splitting between two right-wing opposition parties. In December 2003, those parties merged into the Conservative Party, which has 98 seats. In June 2004, the Liberals lost their majority amid public anger over a patronage scandal and were forced to rely on the left-leaning New Democratic Party, with 18 seats, for support. The wild card is the separatist Bloc Quebecois, which has 53 seats. There are four independents and two vacant seats."

Might end up with a friend up north again as in the past before Jean Chretien (Canada's Dean act-alike).

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They predict a Conservative MINORITY government.

I like minority governments.

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I'm glad because it looks like...

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Harper will likely have a smaller cabinet and more of it will be representative of the West and rural areas rather than the liberal overrepresentation of urban areas. Devil

Changes, they are a coming. Happy

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I wonder if this was brought up

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(NT) (NT) That remains to be seen - Rob

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(NT) (NT) I have faith that most Canadians are not idiots.

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(NT) (NT) Some are chowderheads :)

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Not the only country "getting wise"?

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U.S. handles damage-control the Japanese way

TOKYO (AP) - It's among the most Japanese of traditions: officials accused of wrongdoing go before the cameras to express deep regret and promise to make sure it never happens again.

But lately, many of the bowed heads in Japan have been American.

Taking a cue from Japanese culture, a raft of U.S. officials - from the U.S. military, the U.S. Embassy, and the departments of State, Agriculture and Defence - have gone before Japanese officials in recent weeks to humbly ask for forgiveness.
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Americans under SOFA have...

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always been advocates of the "when in Rome" philosophy in host countries, so what is new?

Further, what has this even REMOTELY to do with normally equanimous Canadians finally getting fed up with the Liberal Party (even HUGE inroads in the urbanites who NEVER are Conservative) of their own country and voting them out?

No wonder you are so often so confused about so many things--subject matter is irrelevant to you and you thus seem to think it interchangeable. It isn't.

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always been advocates

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of the "when in Rome" philosophy in host countries, so what is new?

I guess the person that wrote the article and the people that he interviewed seem to think that NOW the US is not only advocating "when in Rome" they are practicing it.

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Ummmm, Canadian News??

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Funny. Our media seems to have missed that story. I have a pretty good idea why that is, and its not because our media wants to paint a positive picture of the government.

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Mark Steyn's take

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An Act of Hygiene
Democracy fells yet another anti-American government.

He's his usual witty self, and doesn't overplay the results. My favorite part is underlined ;):

Remember the conventional wisdom of 2004? Back then, you'll recall, it was the many members of George Bush's "unilateral" coalition who were supposed to be in trouble, not least the three doughty warriors of the Anglosphere--the president, Tony Blair and John Howard--who would all be paying a terrible electoral price for lying their way into war in Iraq. The Democrats' position was that Mr. Bush's rinky-**** nickel-and-dime allies didn't count: The president has "alienated almost everyone," said Jimmy Carter, "and now we have just a handful of little tiny countries supposedly helping us in Iraq." (That would be Britain, Australia, Poland, Japan . . .) Instead of those nobodies, John Kerry pledged that, under his leadership, "America will rejoin the community of nations"--by which he meant Jacques Chirac, Gerhard Schroeder, the Belgian guy . . .

Two years on, Messrs. Bush, Blair, Howard and Koizumi are all re-elected, while Mr. Chirac is the lamest of lame ducks, and his ingrate citizenry has tossed out his big legacy, the European Constitution; Mr. Schroeder's government was defeated and he's now shilling for Russia's state-owned Gazprom ("It's all about Gaz!"); and the latest member of the coalition of the unwilling to hit the skids is Canada's Liberal Party, which fell from office on Monday. John Kerry may have wanted to "rejoin the community of nations." Instead, "the community of nations" has joined John Kerry, windsurfing off Nantucket in electric-yellow buttock-hugging Lycra, or whatever he's doing these days....

Wonder if he wore his yellow daisy zipper pull in Davos?!
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Was that the snowboarding trip

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in which "that %$#!@##$%%^^&$@ secrect service guy knocked me over"?

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Because John Kerry doesn't fall down!

Evie Happy

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