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Too much spam HELP!

Mar 6, 2012 3:41AM PST

Is there anyway to fight massive amounts of spam I have been receiving? They go to my spam folder, I have also been blocking them and have even tried putting filters on them...nothing works. I was so angry I decided I would return the spam, I forwarded back to the people who have been sending it to me. Then I started getting failure notices that it was not a true yahoo address, I have sent them a message but so far have not heard anything. These are filthy nasty messages, I have no idea what to do to stop them from coming, I used up my limit on blocks so I removed some and started over. They come from Sexy Book, Sexy Locals, and others. The worst two are from Lonely HouseWife and F##k Book, and yes I put in the number signs. The last two are coming from these two websites http://www.decomatch.com/lonely/ and http://www.newunox.com/up/ if there is anyone that can please tell me how to make this stop I would appreciate it so much, on some days I have 30 of them.

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Depending on your email client,
Mar 6, 2012 8:29AM PST

you can expand the rules by adding to the same rule.

Not sure what you are using as an email client but instead of having one rule per spammer, try using the + sign on one rule and adding an OR statement.
Your rule would start of with one line and then build on that.
For example:
if email is from xxxx
or
if email is from yyyy
or
if email is from zzz
then put in spam folder.

Of course, if that is the way you are already doing it, please ignore this post

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i just answered a similar question
Mar 6, 2012 3:53AM PST
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Handling Spam with Mailwasher
Mar 8, 2012 8:53AM PST

I have used Maiwasher for years; it most powerful feature is "bouncing."

The bounce feature is a tool which bounces an email back to the sender that indicates your email address no longer exists.

On the preview pane of each email, you'll see a link 'Mark for bounce'. Clicking this link will change the color of the email text to grey, and when you press the 'Wash Mail' button, the message will be bounced back to the sender so they receive a message that your email address does not exist. You can also use the 'B' key on your keyboard to mark an email for bouncing.

If the sender receives your bounced message, they should take you off their email list and not send you any more email. This is more likely to happen for companies who regularly clean their lists, but more often than not, will not work for spammers who mostly use fake email addresses.

MailWasher Pro works directly with your email server, exactly like your email program does. But there is one important difference: you can tell MailWasher to delete a message at the server, without downloading it.

MailWasher retrieves information about all your email on the server. With that information (some of which is also processed by MailWasher), you can decide what to do with each individual email - download or delete.

If you check your accounts with MailWasher first, you can delete the email you do not want. Then, when you use your email program, it downloads only the remaining email, those that you want to read. It works with Email client.

Find Mailwasher at http://www.firetrust.com/

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The problem with bouncing is that unless it is done
Mar 8, 2012 11:31AM PST

immediately, it is a very good sign that there is a human at the other end doing the bouncing.

If you ever send an email to a bad email address, you will see that the bounce message comes back almost instantly.
A gap of an hour or so is a dead giveaway.

I have found it best not to respond at all. Just create rules, stick them in the Spam folder and delete without even previewing them. Previewing them just gives the email a chance to phone home to say it has been opened.

JMO

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(NT) Agreed.
Mar 8, 2012 8:18PM PST
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Start over and do this......
Oct 2, 2014 4:40PM PDT

Skim this over, then read it again if you're fed up with spam.


99.99999% of the spam problem comes from "woodpeckers", spammers with automated programs
who change their addresses, domains, and IP addresses so that traditional blockers and
blacklists don't stop them.

The problem is not Bed, Bath, and Beyond selling our email addresses to so called partners
such as Fishing Tackle, Sporting Goods, and Beyond. They obey the unsubscribe instruction.

The problem is the veritable roulette wheel of ever changing fake addresses that spammers
toss out into cyberspace each day with the same old messages. Over and over again.

If we nail the woodpecker, we solve our problem.

Zero tolerance is the policy, and my spam folders are the loneliest on the internet...literally!

Here's what I've been doing after starting over with fresh accounts:

I have 4 webmail accounts whose logins are managed by the LastPass password manager. They
are Outlook webmail, GMail. and 2 AOL webmail accounts.

All have scrambled usernames that are little more than extensions of the webmail password;
they're for log in purposes only and are never used to send mail. Usernames like Larry007
and Mary2014 are not used. Rather, something like t9W4x?Bs@gmail.com is used to foil brute
force attempts to crack the username and pair it off with all the best known webmail domains.

All sent mail comes from various alias email addresses provided by Outlook webmail. Outlook's
primary username is never used to send mail. And even the alias usernames are scrambled.
However....it's obvious that our personal contacts are not going to like
t9W4x?Bs@outlook.com, so we put our first name up front, plus one other word...and
then scramble it to foil the dictionary attacker.

For example: Judy has a boyfriend named Jeff. She gives him an exclusive alias address
like judyjefft9W4x?Bs@outlook.com. Should the address ever become compromised somehow,
she sends him a new one to copy and paste into his Contact list, one that changes
the second word and the random string, such as judyjeffreyx5t7%zJw@outlook.com. Jeff
sees that jeff is now jeffrey and easily distinguishes the new from the old without having
to examine the random string. He copies the new one to Contacts.

Alias addresses give us absolute veto power over any woodpecker that might get hold of the
alias address. We simply delete it and issue a new one if necessary. This veto power is
post-emptive or after the fact; but it is absolute.

The GMail/AOL trinity is different. It gives us pre-emptive veto power. It works like this:

GMail has mail fetchers that fetch mail from each of 2 AOL webmail accounts. Aol has
the only blocker on the internet that is worth a damn. The Exclusive Blocker. The AOL
accounts are used for initial registrations only. We don't send mail from them.

The Exclusive Blocker does not look for an address to reject; it looks for an address to accept.
It accepts mail only from the AOL Contacts list. Another setting below the Blocker setting
allows the choice of sending the blocked mail to the spam folder or blocking it at the
server. This latter option keeps it out of AOL's spam folder, as well as out of AOL's inbox.

However, the Exclusive Blocker has one weakness. Spoofing.

If a spammer can guess any of our contacts and pretend to be that contact in the "From"
field of his message, he will land right in our inbox. And all he has to assume is that the user
pays his bills online. He then programs all of the billing addresses of every credit card
company, every bank, every auto insurance company, every phone and utility company
into his automated spam program and pairs it off with AOL.com, and he's in.

We can stop him by setting up the second AOL webmail and populating it only with trusted,
but spoofable, contacts, such as our banks and the others mentioned above. We keep
them separate from the AOL 1 webmail where there may be some possibility of someone
there selling our scrambled AOL 1 email address. The AOL 2 contacts won't do that.

Now we set up mail 2 fetchers in GMail to fetch mail from the 2 AOL webmail accounts. With
these fetchers we can direct the AOL 1 mail to the inbox folder and the AOL 2 monthly bills to
a GMail folder we've created, such as "bills" or A-Monthly. Or we can fetch it all to GMail's
inbox.

Note that the 2 AOL webmail accounts are little more filter/blockers. We spend most of our
non-social time in GMail, whose scrambled username once again, is never used to send mail.

To see how it works, imagine a hypothetical user who plays the horses. He subscribes to
various advisory newsletters who give him recommendations of horses to bet on at various
tracks around the country. These newsletters cover a wide range of ethics, some respecting
the user's privacy, some not.

He has 20 newsletters in AOL 1. One of them, abchotponies@yahoo.com sells his address
to xyzevenhotterponies@yahoo.com. XYZ is a woodpecker. He has a roulette wheel of
changing return addresses. He is also a spoofer. He has another roulette wheel of spoofed
banks, auto insurance companies, etc.

He launches the first wheel and AOL 1's Exclusive Blocker scrutinizes the spammer's "address
of the day" and finds no address in AOL 1 Contacts to match it. Next day, different fake address
from the wheel, same result. The XYZ spammer is left in cyberspace.

Then he launches the second wheel with the banks, etc., and AOL 1's blocker again finds no address
in AOL 1 Contacts to match the address submitted by the wheel that day. Or the next day. Or the next.

Why? Because the banks, etc are in AOL 2. XYZ needs 3 things to barge into this user's
webmail. He needs the username, a user Contact address, and a webmail domain common
to both. He has AOL 1's username, AOL 2's Contact(s), but no common webmail domain.
He can't get in. Unless he spoofs abchotponies, the one who sold him the AOL 1 username
and address in te first place. He won't.

So....to summarize: the GMail AOL trinity is used for non-social daily and periodic business
and gives us absolute, pre-emptive veto power over woodpecker spammers by way of
scrambled usernames, AOL's Exclusive Blocker, and the bulletproofing of that blocker by
separating ethics-challenged Contacts in AOL 1 from trustworthy, but spoofable, Contacts
in AOL 2. The mail is gathered in one place by the 2 GMail fetchers.

Outlook aliases are used to send mail and they allow for receiving mail from people we don't
know; old classmates trying to find us on facebook where we've posted an alias that can
be deleted if necessary. All social mail, commerce, and anything potentially fishy is handled
with aliases; indeed, all sending of any mail is from aliases. (Alias mail can also be fetched
to GMail).

I'm going on 3 years now using this system. The difference is night and day! No aggravation,
none of the stress that comes when someone has control over you. This approach doesn't
"fight" spam, or "reduce" it. It keeps us under the radar, where the woodpecker spammer can't
find us, and eliminates it!

Read this over a couple of times and adapt it to your situation. You may even be able to
simplify it.

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Correction....
Oct 2, 2014 5:04PM PDT

The following paragraph in my reply, "Start over and do this.....", has an error:

"Why? Because the banks, etc are in AOL 2. XYZ needs 3 things to barge into this user's
webmail. He needs the username, a user Contact address, and a webmail domain common
to both. He has AOL 1's username, AOL 2's Contact(s), but no common webmail domain.
He can't get in. Unless he spoofs abchotponies, the one who sold him the AOL 1 username
and address in the first place. He won't."

Deleting the word "domain" gives the intended meaning in the third and fourth sentences. In
other words, the spoofer must have a "username, a user Contract address, and a webmail
common to both. He has AOL 1's username, AOL 2's Contact(s), but no common webmail."

Obviously the aol.com domain is the same for both AOL accounts. Sorry for the confusion.