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Tip not given, service fine, food fine, lifestyle not OK.

Nov 16, 2013 11:32AM PST
http://ca.shine.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/jersey-waitress-ex-marine-denied-tip-because-gay-183021538.html?vp=1

A New Jersey serving person and former Marine served a family's dinner apparently without any complaint or discomfort, but then found she had been denied a tip because she is gay. I'll grant you that her hair is short and her manner is rather gay-female, but that's no reason to deny someone the tip that servers all depend on to live.

Is that a reason to deny her a tip? or a reason to complain to the owner of the restaurant and threaten to withdraw one's patronage. I'd think the latter is the way to go. Then the restaurant owner can go public, and generate more business from the majority who find this customer's behaviour ludicrous and offensive.

And just how many places would one eat if one knew the sexual orientation of all of the staff? In my experience, there seem to be a lot of gays both as wait staff and as chefs and cooks, also owners.

My wife declined to tip one waiter, one time, because he was so fixated on flirting with me, he couldn't keep track of whose credit card paid for the meal. Nancy was offended. I thought that withholding a tip was quite proper, not because of the flirting, but because he failed to attend properly to the service, and the paying customer.

Rob

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flirting with half a couple certainly can cost a tip
Nov 16, 2013 11:37AM PST

esp if as over the top as you indicate. A little flirt may be normal, part of the business even to stroke an ego. Flirting to the point you may cause trouble between a couple is wrong.


I don't care if it's homosexual or heterosexual.

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Fortunately no trouble between us at that point. I was
Nov 16, 2013 12:40PM PST

amused, but didn't reveal that to Nancy, who was seriously offended at his neglecting his duties to her which he did in fact owe her whether she was paying or not.

Rob

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we may not know the full story
Nov 16, 2013 4:12PM PST

If the waiter was "coming on" to the customer, especially if customer made it clear he wasn't also gay, then waiter was being offensive and in addtion to the service expected he used it as an occassion to pursue his own personal agenda to the other's chagrin. No tip deserved. Otherwise the bible clearly states the laborer is worthy of his hire, and the waiter should have been tipped.