Thumbs Up For Mich. Mosques...

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CL explained perfectly the different terms so no one would misunderstand anything. It was said that posts in any language other than English will be considered as baiting because the moderators don't know what it means. In this case CL was perfectly clear in the meaning of the words and so forth there is no reason to discuss that part at all. And you know very well that if other people use words like Chanukkah or Kosher or Shabbat Shalom, that won't be seen as provoking at all...
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...I don't care if it's gibberish or a language, but I'm not the one who makes that determination on what's allowed. If I don't understand it, or don't care for it, I just move on past it.

I explained already in another thread that a forum is for communication, which leads to discussion. If gibberish or a language isn't communicating with the others, it fails the purpose of a forum.

why don't you just ask CL? I don't find it any worse than if anybody else would be posting about Catholicism or Judaism or even Southern Baptists, which we had a discussion about some time ago. I assume that freedom of religion provails in this forum too...

not often that i agree with blake, but isn't this "taunting gibberish"?

it is for Chorus-Line to state it in his subject line, but this is a source for info about it....and I ask that he please refrain from using phrases such as this not in English unless he puts it in his message with a translation along with it.

http://www.bakkah.net/articles/sujoodtilaawah.htm

>>>>As for his (Sayyid Saabiq's [1]) statement:

"On the authority of Ibn 'Umar, he said, 'The Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) used read the Qur'aan in front of us (in prayer), and when he came to verse of prostration, he would make takbeer (saying "Allaahu akbar") and prostrate, and we would also prostrate.' It was collected by Aboo Daawood, Al-Bayhaqee, and Al-Haakim who said about it, 'It is saheeh according to the conditions of the two shaykhs (Al-Bukhaaree and Muslim).'">>>>

TONI

Good site by the way And yes to the hadith you quoted. It is absolutely Saheeh. Did you understand what it means though or you just saw the word to show me I have to consult you for my Arabic base upon one quote?

Takbeer the saying of "Allaahu Akbar".

Well, interesting a None Muslim would again teach me my RELIGION. Sounds like you are directing me to see a chiropractor to get my muffler fix.
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Here's is the adhan, and here is meaning and the lyrics to the ADHAN.
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What does it sounds like?
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Educate yourself

asking nicely that you not teach it to us unless you've been asked to.

I posted the link for others as a consideration.

TONI

Let me draw your attention to the article and read the contents given that such has relations to what I posted.
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Second, did it violate any TOS RULES?
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If I had posted this as a different article would it be A VIOLATION as far as Knowledge base?
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If I wrote about CHRISTIANITY IN THE light of Christianity would it make any difference to your cautioning me? WOULD you have said the same to a Christian?
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And other religious information to share other should I find something interesting worth learning?
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Lastly, you would have not posted an Islamic Link to justify your intent without a Muslim giving further clarification to what you are quoting given that the information you gave is TOO VAGUE for others to understand.

AND YOUR quote:
asking nicely that you not teach it to us unless you've been asked to.
I posted the link for others as a consideration.
TONI

I want to borrow Clay's quote ---------- Is this a new rule OR your rule BECAUSE you dislike this particular person and this religion?
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It's obvious eh.
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There are tons of Muslims and Islamic issue posted here that are wrongfully attributed to the religion and Muslims, yet expect a Muslim such as myself to remain quiet?
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and let others continuously dwell on wrong info? In other words, IGNORANCE is the results of censorship?

they pulled clays post are you any better??
i think not

without translation -----is considered derogatory.
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I provided mine. Not taking my words?
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I again provided my proofs from various Islamic links?
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Not satisfied?
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Well, let's all take a LONG NAP.

the post wasnt in english therfore it should be pulled as clays was seems like 2 sided pulling

to keep informing us about Islam. I think it is important to learn how it is seen from inside the religion and not only from the outside which is the side that is usually presented!

Thanks CT. It's very encouraging to note that there are few people who are by far open-minded than some others.

Well, it is not always easy to talk about Islam and often I have refrained from responding to other member's postings.
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Let's just say, I am somewhat selective which posters or postings deserves a response and postings that inevitably requires one.
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If you ask, I will have an answer available.

as long as its in english
ask clay forien language is giberish to me and i dont want to have to get a translator.
so this is an english forum
if chorus line wants a non english forum or you or charlie feel free to start one

"Knowledge and understanding is really not a bad thing..."

No it is not a bad thing, so long as the person transmitting it has the intelligence to properly display it as English in a English speaking Forum.

George

and when they pulled oths posts for non english they made it that way so as its discrimitory not to pull others why allow it?

lee made the desion

they moment they do, i guess they'll be told to stop...

I don't agree with that part of Toni's statement as delivered, but in context maybe she meant something different by it in relation to posting in a foreign language or using foreign terms unfamiliar to others.

You've got that right, James.

CL gave translations of the -to us-unknown words.

The objections come when translations have not been given. Or when terms are used that are not familiar to everyone.

As a public forum, the texts are to be readable to everyone.

When translations are given, we take them at face value until shown otherwise.

Angeline
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I was comparing the melodious sounds of church bells in small towns across America, to the newer image of some ugly old guy wearing a shroud wrapped around his head, screaming from the top of a tower or minaret across the neighborhood or town. Guess which image is more appealing.

I also think "frequency" is a key factor here. Five times a day the old geezer yells out loudly across the neighborhood, or one day a week a church rings it's bells for morning worship.

I once lived in a small town where everyday at noon they used the old raid/fire/emergency/tornado warning siren to announce noontime. I can't remember now if it also went off on Sundays too, but it sure did every other day. We lived 2 blocks from it. Loud enough you had to quit talking for about 3-5 minutes.

Noise in neighborhoods can be a valid problem to address. I think having someone screaming on a regular basis every day from the top of a tower, aided by Allah's own megaphone (I'm assuming Mohammed authorized it's use) is probably a bigger distraction than a noontime siren, or a Sunday bell ringing.

...but it is spiritually soothing....
.....a reminder from the People of The Book and The Scriptures that they too are calling everyone to remain steadfast in their worship of their faith.