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thought for the day

by Mark5019 / March 1, 2007 9:23 AM PST

THOUGHT FOR THE DAY


"The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration."

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(NT) The day has thoughts? ;-)
by caktus / March 2, 2007 5:34 AM PST
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As I understand it, the American Indians
by Steven Haninger / March 2, 2007 5:41 AM PST
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or Native Americans....whichever is preferred....did not believe that people could own land but that the land owned the people on it and would allow them to stay only if they were good stewards of it. They had no understanding of greed for property or abuse of it. That was evil and would come back to haunt. I think they are largely correct. Happy

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I've heard that before...
by J. Vega / March 2, 2007 9:54 AM PST

I've heard that line about them not believing that people could own land before, but it always puzzled me. I seem to remember accounts in historical studies of some tribes getting quite violent towards members of other tribes when they encroached on their territory.

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Perhaps, as with all of us humans
by Steven Haninger / March 2, 2007 10:12 AM PST

what we profess to believe in and what we sometimes practice are at odds. I have also read that tribal wars could be quite brutal...far worse than those who came from Europe were accustomed to which were sometimes more a ceremony or spectator sport than savagery personified. I suppose Native American spirituality had it's variants. As for squabbles over land, I doubt it was for prime commercial real estate so much as for food, water, and shelter. They did learn to trade among the tribes. For instance, flint for arrowhead making was only found in a few places and was a valued commodity.

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Also, Stephen...
by J. Vega / March 2, 2007 11:38 AM PST

Also, Stephen, they could get quite upset when someone entered "sacred" areas. The Black Hills comes to mind. Unfortunately in that case, word of gold there spread and the rush was on. The eventual outcome there, as well as in other areas, was inevitable as basically it was a conflict between cultures at the stone age level of technology against ones having industrial age technology.

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Good point
by Steven Haninger / March 2, 2007 8:24 PM PST
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It seems animals fight over food, mating rights or to protect their young and "family" members. Humans fight over honor and protection of tradition as well. Conflicts among animals happen and are over in an instant but between humans they can last for thousands of years. Sad

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The tribe owned an area for hunting, etc.
by Diana Forum moderator / March 4, 2007 4:02 AM PST

As for stewards, heard of them driving buffalo off cliffs and then just picking the choicest parts and leaving the rest.

Diana

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I saw a show on TV recently
by Dragon / March 4, 2007 4:47 AM PST

about the first "Americans". Does anybody wonder what happened to the largest animals in N America? People the first people here, killed them -- all but the buffalo.

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TV Show?
by taboma / March 4, 2007 1:48 PM PST

?Dragon, The bears are still around.

A bear walks into a bar in Billings,Montana and sits down.
He bangs on the bar with his paw and demands a beer.

The bartender approaches and says, "We don't serve beer to bears in bars in Billings."

The bear, becoming angry, demands again that he be served a beer.

The bartender tells him again, more forcefully,

"We don't serve beer to belligerent bears in bars in Billings."

The bear, very angry now, says, "If you don't serve me a beer, I'm going to eat that lady sitting at the
end of the bar."

The bartender says, "Sorry, we don't serve beer to belligerent, bully bears in bars in Billings"

The bear goes to the end of the bar, and, as promised, eats the woman. He comes back to his seat and again demands a beer.

The bartender states, "Sorry, we don't serve beer to belligerent, bully bears in bars in Billings who are on drugs."

The bear says, "I'm NOT on drugs."

The bartender says, "You are now.

That was a barbitchyouate

-Kevin

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(NT) Groan :-)
by Steven Haninger / March 5, 2007 1:32 AM PST
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