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Thomas Edison, the failure.

Feb 15, 2010 2:35AM PST

Little known history about Thomas Edison. Shouldn't all aspiring inventors, designers, and architects also know about the great failures of those remembered as great in other areas?

http://flyingmoose.org/truthfic/edison.htm

It also stands as a monument to one of the most colossal flops in the history of scientific innovation. It is one of a dozen surviving examples of Thomas Edison's worst invention ever: the single-piece cast-concrete house.

Edison's concrete houses aren't quite as well-known as, say, the incandescent bulb, the phonograph, or the motion picture. Yet the great inventor devoted nearly as much time and effort to them as he did to any of his better-known discoveries. He even dreamt of a future in which millions of Americans would not only live in concrete houses, but also sleep on concrete beds, and play music on concrete pianos.

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I don't think it bothered him
Feb 15, 2010 2:48AM PST
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Object lesson: Greenfield Village in MI has
Feb 17, 2010 6:05AM PST

a glass case, about 30 ft long, full of old mechanical and electrical parts, assemblies and other unrecognizable junk. The label says it's just a part of Edison's failed experiments. Many of us would have quit at just a shelf full. He didn't.

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Proven concepts
Feb 16, 2010 12:05AM PST

I read up on Edison and those concrete houses were at the time a little too early. But, the fact remains that those houses actually stood the the test of time and only were removed once they became in the way of new progress. Edison made the decision to go ahead hoping of course to make a hit in yet another product to offer to the public. It was too expensive but yet had it reached a critical stage, cost comes down, required permits, etc., all would have made it more acceptable. His idea still lives on in "pre-fab" concrete structures that are build by sections, etc., but these usually are commercial building or public works. As a business venture that idea failed but the concept has proven valid. -----Willy Happy

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Yes
Feb 16, 2010 2:05AM PST

I agree that concrete is the wave of the future in home construction. Not just for driveways and sidewalks anymore. If you go to a major portland cement site on the internet you can see a large number of ways concrete is being used in residential housing now. The stamped flooring designs, of course terrazo topped concrete, 8x8x16 blocks have been used for decades, monolithic domes, concrete and styrofoam combinations, and host of other applications. I think the biggest problem with monolithic structures are when stresses develop, more likely due to settling than other causes, which aren't spread equally across the entire structure, leading to cracks in those structures.

I do wish the article had been more in depth on the exact problems the woman was facing, the cause of her leaks. I find it hard to believe simple fiber reinforced concrete couldn't provide sufficient patches. My house shingles are actually a type of concrete. They are called asbestos shingles, but that's just the fiber inside that helps reinforce the concrete. I've seen homes in the area which replaced the old siding with new vinyl siding, only to loose large strips of that in storms, while I've never lost a single shingle. I have a backup supply I've collected where I saw vinyl siding going up and the old shingles coming off, so I'm set for any replacements needed in future years. I did replace a few that cracked when I was swapping my sliding glass doors out for double french doors instead. I so much more like the french style doors both in looks and utility.

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Concrete Piano
Feb 16, 2010 6:42AM PST

Fun video to watch about some Canadians making a copy of Edison's concrete piano. Links to other great inventor's great failures.

http://www.concretepiano.com/