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(NT) (NT) Vanity Fair what next articles from Cosmopolitan
Apr 14, 2005 1:51AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) Didn't bother to read past the header, huh
Apr 14, 2005 1:56AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) yep
Apr 14, 2005 2:20AM PDT
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''But if all the mistakes and omissions occur in such a way
Apr 14, 2005 7:58AM PDT

as to be consistent, to support or attack only one position ..." then alarm bells should be ringing all the way to Washington. Unfortunately Washington is owned by the guys who in all probability stole the votes in the first place.

rob

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lol
Apr 15, 2005 2:49AM PDT

Unfortunately Washington is owned by the guys who in all probability stole the votes in the first place.

you keep on telling this same old bs
and yet when i say something about kerry im told its enough of it.
well this lies enough, your total bias is enough.

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(NT) (NT) Source attacked. What's next?
Apr 14, 2005 3:14AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) intelligence of a report is only as good as it's source
Apr 14, 2005 3:25AM PDT
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To attack a source you have to prove 1. bias in publication,
Apr 14, 2005 7:44AM PDT

2. the bias of the author and 3. factual inaccuracy. You have done none of the above. You have, however, declared your own bias and your refusal to even consider the evidence provided. Your assertion is without merit on its face, you don't even get to take it to court for a judgement.

Rob Boyter

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(NT) (NT) Martha Stewart's Living with Tinfoil?? LOL
Apr 14, 2005 6:31AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) That's beneath you, Evie, you're better than that.
Apr 14, 2005 7:46AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) Lost your legendary sense of humor?
Apr 14, 2005 7:53AM PDT
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To any crackpot, tinfoiled wack job that believes the articl
Apr 14, 2005 2:15AM PDT

Given the overt underhanded, sneakiness that is inherent in the DNC, why wouldn?t they have had at least one of their own infiltrate the ?Vast Right Wing Conspiracy? that was involved in ?stealing? yet a second national election. The Democrats were crying about the VRWC stealing the election months before the election. Why didn?t they then prepare to produce evidence of systematic election fraud? Why not? IT DIDN?T HAPPEN!

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Thanks for the
Apr 14, 2005 3:16AM PDT

rational, reasoned, calm rebuttal.

Very telling.

Dan

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(NT) (NT) So you think the Ohio election was rigged?
Apr 14, 2005 3:25AM PDT
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I think that the
Apr 14, 2005 6:25AM PDT

many irregularities should be most thoroughly investigated. That has not happened to date, and may not be possible in some instances. The handling of the voting machines and the lack of any true audit saw to that.

Only the most closed minded individual would not find some of the occurrences listed in this article to be suspicious.

Dan

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reply
Apr 15, 2005 3:46AM PDT

What you are suggesting is that there is a large conspiracy with many sub conspiracies within it. It is simple to commit election fraud at a local level but without making large changes in normal voting procedures, it can?t be done state wide to swing a State as large as Florida or Ohio.

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What I'm suggesting,
Apr 15, 2005 4:41AM PDT

and what I said, is I think that the many irregularities should be most thoroughly investigated. That has not happened to date, and may not be possible in some instances. The handling of the voting machines and the lack of any true audit see to that.

Only the most closed minded individual would not find some of the occurrences listed in this article to be suspicious.

Dan

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Do this
Apr 15, 2005 5:11AM PDT

What you need to need to do is sign up to work as an election judge. (I have worked it). You will find out how many ? irregularities? occur that are normal events or what absolutely ignorant people think are ?irregularities?.

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I've done it, thanks.
Apr 15, 2005 5:32AM PDT

Such irregularities hardly address the bulk of what was considered in the article. That is most obvious.

Dan

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Why do that?? None of you woulkd believe it anyway!
Apr 16, 2005 4:59AM PDT

Face it Gore lost and Kerry lost! Maybe because they had nothing for the People?

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Care to respond Glenda?
Apr 17, 2005 6:16PM PDT
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(NT) (NT) Nope! Said it all:)
Apr 18, 2005 1:32AM PDT
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Hitchens is okay
Apr 14, 2005 5:03AM PDT

I think he is wrong sometimes and right others. He's not insisting the election was rigged, and I doubt it was. I doubt a congressional investigation would uncover anything or have any real value; just a continuation of the arguing.

Move on. Do better next time if you can.

Good quote, "I did not think that John Kerry should have been president of any country at any time."

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As I recall, several media organizations investigated the
Apr 14, 2005 6:51AM PDT

vote in Florida and found no evidence that the election was 'stolen' or that Gore would have won in a further recount.

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(NT) (NT) or popular science
Apr 14, 2005 2:21AM PDT
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Thanks Dan, finally a Christopher Hitchens article I could
Apr 14, 2005 7:49AM PDT

really enjoy. Lots of statistics and a carefully reasoned and not overly partisan conclusion.

Ignore the Buddhist chorus here at SE. They are merely the sound of one hand (the right, of course) clapping.

Rob Boyter

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(NT) (NT) You're welcome, Z.
Apr 14, 2005 8:07AM PDT
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Alternative view of your assumption
Apr 16, 2005 8:09AM PDT
...the sound of one hand (the right, of course) clapping.


And what sound does a left hand only clapping make?

Probably about the same doesn't it?

JMO

Roger

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(NT) (NT) Nobody on the left has anything to clap about.
Apr 17, 2005 7:41AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) I'll second that motion.
Apr 17, 2005 12:00PM PDT