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TheRUMP tells Comey

May 13, 2017 1:54PM PDT

He better hope there is no 'tape" on the conversation between the 2 of them....

TheRUMP has NO problem pretending things HE said (and there is audio AND video ) were never said by HIM.

So Comey....stick to your guns.....

They "drained the swamp", and they discovered TheRUMP?

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What....??? You just woke up to
May 14, 2017 2:59AM PDT

three or four day old news, JP? And, btw, Comey was scheduled to testify behind closed doors this coming Tuesday and cancelled after Trump's tweet......makes you wonder what he planned on saying and now decided not to risk it. It's not a case of 'stick to your guns'....more like a case of 'make sure you don't lie or leak classified information'. After all, during his last testimony, he actually stated that when he sent that letter to Congress about reopening hilLIARy's case in October, he KNEW it would be leaked..;...by some Congressional member of that committee, and it WAS.....HE didn't go public with it until AFTER it was leaked by one of them, but even then, he broke DOJ rules, just like he did before. When you try to justify your actions with self-serving and self-righteous rhetoric, after breaking the rules and assuming authority you don't have, there's nowhere to go but downhill.

One more 'beaver dam' knocked down as the swamp gets drained.........

As for all the outrage that Trump fired Comey because of the Russian influence/interference with our elections, where was/is it over Obama OPENLY interfering in Israel's election in 2013, using OUR tax dollars to do it to the tune of $300K and sending his operatives over there to defeat Bibi? https://www.bing.com/search?q=obama+%24300k+advisors+israeli+election&form=EDGEAR&qs=PF&cvid=14a1d1344503454c9ea7c42e0d957469&cc=US&setlang=en-US

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RE:he KNEW it would be leaked..;...by some
May 14, 2017 4:06AM PDT
he KNEW it would be leaked..;...by some Congressional member of that committee, and it WAS.....HE didn't go public with it until AFTER it was leaked by one of them,

When you say "some Congressional member"...You mean "Republican"?...Right?

“Of course!”: James Comey admits he knew Republicans would reveal FBI investigation into Clinton emails before election

While attempting to defend himself, Comey inadvertently admitted that he knew the congressional leaders, like Republican House Oversight Committee chairman Jason Chaffetz, would likely leak the insider information in the heat of a bruising political season.

“Yeah, did I know they were going to leak it? Of course. I know how Congress works. But I did not make an announcement,” he insisted.


And you think this 3 or 4 day old news is "over"?

What do you think TheRUMP will do (foolish claim he will make) to put this story on the backburner?
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WHO exactly said it was Chaffetz?
May 14, 2017 5:28AM PDT

And was it really "INADVERTENTLY admitted" or was he again playing politics, which he ISN'T supposed to be as head of the FBI, breaking ANOTHER rule?

It's not going to be over for a long time, JP......BUT, there are TWO things going on at the same time. Russia and the election interference......vs.........TRUMP'S INVOLVEMENT. There are THREE investigative agencies that came to the conclusion for BOTH (NOT 17 agencies as stated by the Dems over and over). Their conclusions were identical....yes, Russia did interfere, and NO evidence that Trump OR HIS CAMPAIGN were involved. So, the RUSSIA investigation will continue and the TRUMP investigation SHOULD be over after ten months already with NOBODY LEAKING ANYTHING TO PROVE OTHERWISE (in a world of leaks coming quickly that would attempt to discredit Trump's presidency), but the Dems won't let it go. This are the SAME Dems who never ONCE said an independent prosecutor should be put in place to investigate hilLIARy who had mounds and mountains of evidence of crimes against her but are now calling/shouting for one over something that hasn't shown any evidence against Trump. Explain to me how Trump is going to prove a negative, JP? Because unless/until the FBI finally closes the case against him due to lack of evidence, the negative will be moot, even after Comey not only told Trump that there was no investigation going on against him, he also told Grassley that he wasn't under investigation and Feinstein (a DEM) said Trump wasn't under investigation.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/05/grassley-suggests-that-trump-isnt-under-investigation.html

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/05/12/senators-grassley-and-feinstein-confirm-trump-not-part-of-russia-fbi-investigation/

How many private conversations that Comey had where he admitted this do the Dems need before this lie ends?

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RE:Obama OPENLY interfering in Israel's election in 2013
May 14, 2017 4:30AM PDT

sending his operatives over there to defeat Bibi

It appears your claim is not "clear cut"

Blog claims U.S. funded anti-Netanyahu election effort in Israel

But there is no paper trail that the money given to OneVoice was spent on an electoral ground game. It would be naive to ignore that OneVoice’s policy positions mesh well with V15’s voter mobilization, but that’s different from saying that American taxpayer dollars were spent by V15.

PunditFact’s rulings are based on when a statement was made and on the information available at that time. This claim rates Mostly False.


MY "news" is 4 days old?

YOUR "news" is 2 years old?

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Out of all of the links I gave you
May 14, 2017 5:35AM PDT

you find a BLOG that says it's 'mostly false', even though it's true. OK

MY story may be two years old but it's STILL proof that OUR country's leader hated Bibi so much that HE deliberately interfered with another country's election and did it OPENLY and not a peep out of the SAME Dems who are screaming about Russia right now, even though they've KNOWN that Russia has been trying to interfere with our elections for YEARS. The only reason they're having a meltdown NOW is because hilLIARy lost and Trump won or they would STILL be silent. AND if they were that worried about it, why wouldn't they let the FBI look at their DNC servers when they were told they were being hacked? Because they believed hilLIARy was going to win and they didn't want to rock any boats. BO did NOTHING about Russia's interference while it was going on because he believed hilLIARy would win, too....especially when he was going out there to campaign for her and he was just sooooo appealing that it would be a shoo-in for her (never mind that the Dems lost over 1000 seats across the country while he was president. People liked HIM, not his policies that the Dems supported, JP.

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And in case you or any other liberal Dems have forgotten
May 14, 2017 10:10AM PDT
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Just a note.
May 16, 2017 4:30AM PDT

"Alz patients" is not a good label for deliberately forgetful crooked politicians. Some of us here have personal experience with that curse.
I know you meant no harm, Toni.

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RE:you find a BLOG that says it's 'mostly false',
May 14, 2017 12:29PM PDT
you find a BLOG that says it's 'mostly false', even though it's true. OK

OK,

OK WHAT?

OK, it IS "mostly false"....in other words NOT true.

You want to talk about the past...NOT the present?

The present is no different than the past in your mind...but YOU won't say that...BUT you want me to say that Obama did the same as TheRUMP is doing now?
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What exactly is Trump
May 14, 2017 1:51PM PDT

doing now, do you believe, that BO has done before? IF you are saying he colluded with the Russians to get him elected, there is NO evidence of that accusation; whereas not only did BO ACTUALLY interfere in another country's election, but Ted Kennedy ASKED the Russians to interfere in OURS in order to keep Reagan from being re-elected.

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RE:What exactly is Trump doing now, do you believe,
May 15, 2017 1:59PM PDT

What exactly is Trump doing now, do you believe, that BO has done before?

The present is no different than the past in YOUR mind...but YOU won't say that...BUT you want me to say that Obama did the same as TheRUMP is doing now?

I was "mind reading"

Trying to inform YOU that YOU complain about what YOU claim the previous governments did, but YOU don't DENY that the government YOU support is doing the same as the "other guy".

YOU just say...it's been done by the other guy...

I bring up TheRUMP....,YOU bring up Regan, Clinton, and Obama...

and YOU voted for 'change"?

HEY!!!! They did it...why can't he?

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The DIFFERENCE, JP....
May 15, 2017 2:17PM PDT

is that all three of THE OTHERS actually has PROOF of their deeds and actions....there is NO such thing with the accusations thrown at Trump. There IS change finally....it's just change liberals and you don't like. No more than WE liked the 'change and hope' crap BO threw at us.

Get over it..........When the top three intelligence agencies are all saying there was NO collusion between Trump or his campaign and the Russian interference with our election, how can you keep repeating the lie that there 'must be' and a 'special prosecutor' needs to be in place to investigate it? A special prosecutor can ONLY investigate a CRIME that is believed to have occurred.....there is NO crime that's been found....not even a hint of one except in the minds of the whacked out liberal Dems. And even THAT is a smoke screen being used as an excuse to continue to block/delay ANYTHING Trump tries to do.

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RE:A special prosecutor can ONLY investigate a CRIME that is
May 15, 2017 7:58PM PDT
A special prosecutor can ONLY investigate a CRIME that is believed to have occurred.....there is NO crime that's been found....not even a hint of one except in

"Not even a hint of one" EXCEPT?

So there IS a 'hint of one"

A special prosecutor can ONLY investigate a CRIME that is believed to have occurred

NO!!!!!....They "investigate" the circumstances of certain events AND IF they think there was a crime committed, they bring charges....

investigate AND prosecute....

A special prosecutor (or special counsel or independent counsel) is a lawyer appointed to investigate and possibly prosecute/u]

You have NO problems with an "independent commission"?

Rather than an inquiry focused narrowly on criminal conduct, the way to resolve questions swirling around President Trump and his associates is to impanel an independent commission.

Few now disagree that the integrity of the 2016 election was polluted by clandestine foreign intervention. Americans deserve the full story of that pollution, If the president of the United States—or anyone near him—is compromised by connections to foreign intelligence or foreign organized crime, the public and Congress need to know that immediately. But the dangers—and the remedies—in the present situation are much more likely to be political than legal. It’s more important that the investigation be speedy and its full conclusions shared with the public than that it lead to indictments, prosecutions, and penalties. By delaying, distracting, and asking the wrong questions, a slow-moving and tight-lipped special prosecutor could well serve Trump’s interests better than Trump’s own lawyers to date have done.
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Good grief.....
May 16, 2017 3:15AM PDT

The reason they no longer call it 'special prosecutor' anymore is because a PROSECUTOR doesn't INVESTIGATE.....they use INVESTIGATORS like the FBI and then they PROSECUTE. Now they call it a 'commission'....which is similar to a government "committee"....and we ALREADY have THREE investigations going on right now.

"By delaying, distracting, and asking the wrong questions, a slow-moving and tight-lipped special prosecutor could well serve Trump’s interests better..." And just HOW would those tactics serve ANYBODY other than to also delay and distract Trump's presidential agenda?

You DO realize that hatred of Trump is the ONLY reason they are demanding one for Trump and NEVER demanded one for hilLIARy when the evidence against HER was overwhelming and there is NONE against Trump? I'll tell you why, JP....they wanted HER to win (she didn't) and because they saw what happened with her HUSBAND. They had Starr 'investigating' HIM originally for Whitewater and ended up with a 'blue dress' impeachment instead when he couldn't PROVE the ORIGINAL 'crime'. There are no restrictions on the directions a special prosecutor can go in order to 'bring down' the target.

IF they really want to get to 'the bottom' of the Russian connections to Trump, three investigations going on already are enough. And Trump isn't stopping or even trying to stop any of those investigations.....firing the head of one agency investigating it doesn't stop the investigation from going forward.

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RE:The reason they no longer call it 'special prosecutor'
May 16, 2017 4:20AM PDT
The reason they no longer call it 'special prosecutor' anymore is because a PROSECUTOR doesn't INVESTIGATE.....they use INVESTIGATORS

NO WAY!!!!...Say it ain't so.....

They use INVESTIGATORS?

Under the direction of the "Special Prosecutor"?

These investigators decide, on their own, what they will INVESTIGATE?

And they report to?...To each other?...To the Special Prosecutor?

RE:distract Trump's presidential agenda?

His "agenda" appears to be very fluid....even his surrogates aren't "up to speed" when giving his press conferences....
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The three agencies
May 16, 2017 8:01AM PDT

already investigating, JP, report to the DOJ PROSECUTORS, who decide to go forward or not. So why add a FOURTH investigation into the mix with a special prosecutor/commission? To delay, divert, distract..........so Trump's administration can't go forward their agenda? Do you think a special prosecutor would have delayed BO's agenda? He stopped (with Reid's aiding and abetting assistance) using Congress to pass his agenda with lawful bills and instead resorted to EO's....which have been or are being reversed and undone by Trump. BUT, there have already been 23 BILLS passed through Congress in less than 100 days with Trump....BO's record doesn't even come close to that. The Dems are only screaming for a special prosecutor in order to now use that as an excuse to refuse to vote for ANY FBI head nominated by Trump unless he agrees to that special prosecutor being assigned. It's all bull 'resistance' and obstruction tactics.

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RE:report to the DOJ PROSECUTORS, who decide
May 16, 2017 12:48PM PDT
report to the DOJ PROSECUTORS, who decide to go forward or not.

OR

report to the DOJ PROSECUTORS, who decide NOT to go forward and GET FIRED like Comey?.

That's why a "Special Prosecutor" is needed...a "one trick pony"...just there..only for this investigation....Not beholding to TheRUMP....
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This DIDN'T happen with Comey>>>>>>>
May 16, 2017 4:53PM PDT

"report to the DOJ PROSECUTORS, who decide NOT to go forward and GET FIRED like Comey?."

Lynch stated publicly that she would defer to the recommendation of Comey (she did NOT recuse herself from the investigation)......HIS public TV statement in July started off with the statement that he DID not confer with DOJ about making the public statement and that they (DOJ) had no idea that he would do it or what he would say. He NEVER reported to them BUT he took the position that he HAD the authority to NOT prosecute. He stated during the last Congressional hearing testimony that the 'cap for him was Lynch meeting Bill C on the plane' and that he didn't believe he could trust her decision.........BUT he ALSO didn't take his report to HIS boss (the second in command at DOJ) to give his recommendation and let HER (Yates) decide to prosecute or not.

There is no need for a special prosecutor........

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RE:Comey was scheduled to testify behind closed doors this c
May 14, 2017 4:59AM PDT
Comey was scheduled to testify behind closed doors this coming Tuesday and cancelled after Trump's tweet.

James Comey agrees to testify in public Senate hearing

The former FBI Director will likely be asked about the Russia investigation and Donald Trump firing him

A lot harder to dispute what goes on "in public" than 'behind closed doors"?
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Again, your source has it wrong
May 14, 2017 5:47AM PDT
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Thanks, guys.
May 14, 2017 8:47AM PDT

I now know there's a site called "swillnews". Makes my Sunday. Happy

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Doesn't make it any less true though.......
May 14, 2017 10:14AM PDT

It's kind of like liberals using politifact as their 'truth meter' or (be still my heart) Rachel Maddow.

I picked one of many news links and didn't pay any attention to the link name. Glad I could help make your Sunday better though. Move the words around a little and you come up with "Republicans Will Rise"

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Yes, I understand the title
May 14, 2017 2:25PM PDT

has political connotations.
I take the broader view of what I presume to call non-standard news sources. That they all could be part of this site.

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Like I said
May 14, 2017 12:47PM PDT
Comey wants to testify IN PUBLIC hearing.... no need for hoping there are no "tapes" of the testimony, Comey want lots of "tapes" of what was said....TheRUMP can't even say the word "tape" now....strangely silent for a man with a lot of mouth....even his surrogates can't say the word 'tapes".

A slap in the face/reference to TheRUMP..... in case it goes over you head.

Comey cancelled right after that tweet.

Cancelled a "closed door" testimony?

Smart move in my opinion....less chance of a doctored "tape"..
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Yes, he cancelled a closed door testimony
May 14, 2017 1:57PM PDT

that was already scheduled. He has NOW been 'invited' to testify in an OPEN hearing, which he hasn't responded to so far.

Yes, it was a smart move on his part to cancel since it's become obvious that AFTER the tweeted warning to him to tell the truth since he might have been taped, he had time to rethink the situation. When he is warned to be truthful, and he cancels his testimony date, it makes one wonder what he INTENDED to say behind closed doors, doesn't it?

For someone who has loved the limelight, he's glaringly silent right now.......

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But did Comey get fired...
May 14, 2017 2:38PM PDT

because comey is slang for "combover?" Devil
Dafydd.

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Would that same logic
May 14, 2017 2:55PM PDT

be amusing if people referred to BO as "Hussein" because that IS his middle name? Or state that he prone to 'black humor' (which is a REAL thing: noun
1.
a form of humor that regards human suffering as absurd rather than pitiable, or that considers human existence as ironic and pointless but somehow comic. ) and be called a racist?

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Oops I did it again!
May 14, 2017 3:56PM PDT

Stepped into the political/religious mine field that is Speakeasy. My post was just intended to inject a bit of humour in an otherwise politically charged thread. Obviously this fell on stony ground. Didn't understand the inclusion of the word "racist" in your post.

I thought the Devil would have given it away but no. Your "Hussein" because that "IS"(Islamic State?" his middle name?" Racist? Now, the only time I'm racist is when Wales play England in the six nations rugby (sorry Mark) but that's only 80 minutes.
As an ex mod you should know the rules regarding politics/religion and flaming.
Dafydd.

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Perhaps this will clarify my sentence
May 14, 2017 6:12PM PDT

by rearranging the words in the sentence...

Or state that he (BO) is prone to 'black humor' and be called a racist?

(which is a REAL thing: noun
1.
a form of humor that regards human suffering as absurd rather than pitiable, or that considers human existence as ironic and pointless but somehow comic. )

I was also trying for humor...I just don't like using little pictures. heheheheh I DID recognize that you were as well though.)

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Sometimes Speakeasy needs a little lightening up Toni.
May 15, 2017 1:45PM PDT

At least we both "got it". Wink
Dafydd.

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(NT) I completely agree.......
May 15, 2017 2:18PM PDT