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This is pretty much
Oct 3, 2016 6:24AM PDT

the same 'deal' that hilLIARy made with BO regarding HER trust when she took office and then ignored it all.....AND it's the same deal she has presented in her campaign (Bill and she would be out of the Foundation until she left the Oval Office but her daughter would still run it).

Can't complain about one without complaining about the other, JP. You actually have to LISTEN to what she says for a change.

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RE:This is pretty much
Oct 3, 2016 7:07AM PDT
This is pretty much the same 'deal' that Hillary made with BO regarding HER trust

So YOU'RE against what Hillary did...and YOU have no problems with TheRUMP doing the same thing?.

You actually have to LISTEN to what she says for a change.

YOU actually have to LISTEN to what HE says for a change.

HE thinks HIS family can manage HIS "blind trust".
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(NT) PS
Oct 3, 2016 7:49AM PDT
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More BULL
Oct 3, 2016 10:44AM PDT

They didn't liquidate their (assets) houses et al, JP......they liquidated their TRUSTS....and put everything into the FOUNDATION instead, which they live on exceptionally well. They took in, in 2014, over $140 MILLION and shelled out $90 MILLION in GRANTS.....follow the money to see WHO got those grants.

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RE:They didn't liquidate their (assets) houses
Oct 3, 2016 11:21AM PDT

Well that certainly makes sense.....NOT selling their house.

DUH!!!!

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Houses are included in trusts, JP.......
Oct 3, 2016 12:28PM PDT

Transfer of title goes to the name of the trust......When she 'liquidated' the trust, she just transferred ownership again and took whatever bank accounts, etc. were in the trust name as well and turned it back into cash that she then put into the TAX EXEMPT Foundation that her family lives off of.

I've learned quite a bit about trusts over the last few years when my cousin died and his family assets were all in a family trust account. Do some research so you know what you're talking about here.

Most wealthy people in this country already know about trusts and how to avoid the tax man with them.

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RE:Most wealthy people in this country already know about tr
Oct 3, 2016 1:30PM PDT

Most wealthy people in this country already know about trusts and how to avoid the tax man with them.

And when Hillary avoids taxes she is doing something wrong/illegal? AND she provides her tax returns.

So WHY doesn't TheRUMP produce HIS tax returns?

HE doesn't HAVE to?

Neither does Hillary?

Hillary has bigger gonads than TheRUMP?

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Evidence so far has already
Oct 4, 2016 3:44AM PDT

shown that she and her husband have huge gonads, and both of them should have had theirs clipped long ago. You have to admit that it takes pretty large ones to do as many despicable and illegal things that they've done and gotten away with just because of their 'connections'. They do a lot of stone throwing behind their glass houses so that's pretty ballsy in my opinion. BUT, Trump has never been impeached, has never had his license to practice law taken away from him, has never lied to Congress and the FBI, has never failed to pass his bar to practice law in DC, has never made a deal to have evidence in an ongoing Congressional investigation destroyed, has never ignored the pleas of a friend and watched him along with three others die, and the list goes on and on.

As far as the taxes go.....NO, she DIDN'T have to produce her taxes and neither does Trump. There is no law that says either one of them has to. BUT it would be nice if she would admit that she is using the SAME tax laws that Trump used twenty years ago regarding losses on his taxes and she just did it THIS year. I don't think she expected it would come back to bite her in those very gonads you speak of.

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RE: TheRUMP has never ignored the pleas of a friend
Oct 4, 2016 4:43AM PDT

NEVER?...And YOU know this HOW?

There are no friends when it comes to "business" when you're TheRUMP.

You're not his "friend" you're a "voter"...he'll tell you want you and to hear and he'll do what he wants....Maybe some of what he says.

Do you think he's ignored pleas from employees, creditors, contractors?...

You know "ordinary citizens". The people that lost thousands when HE "Didn't go bankrupt". They did...but HE didn't.

As far as which offenses he hasn't YET committed when it comes to Congress and FBI....time will tell, or maybe it won't.

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Spin your crap any way you want, JP
Oct 4, 2016 9:53AM PDT

He never got his friend and others killed........unless you can prove otherwise.....and hilLIARy can't say the same.

How many more crimes has she YET to commit IF she gets to the Oval Office? YOU don't know that anymore than your stupid question about Trump's 'yet'. All we DO know is that any crimes that HE's committed that he's only had FINES over are so far less than HER REAL crimes that the WH doesn't want her indicted over.

The AG, FBI, and hilLIARy herself, all joined into a 'deal' over Mills' laptop and other ex campaign member included not only immunity BEFORE they were even asked to meet with the FBI but it also included DESTROYING those laptops even though they were already under subpoena from Congress for THEIR investigation.

This entire level of corruption has destroyed the integrity of so many agencies, including the Oval Office that it's disgusting at best. According to reports out now, the WH wanted Biden to run, but because of his son he wasn't able to, so hilLIARy was the 'chosen one' and they determined ahead of time that everything and anything was up for grabs to protect her sorry, sick a$$ in order to protect BO's legacy, even though that legacy is so far into the toilet now that even liberal historians won't be able to stop the carnage for future generations to know about.

I'm done with this thread......

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RE:unless you can prove otherwise.
Oct 4, 2016 11:40AM PDT

IF/WHEN I say it...it is so....

That works for YOU...

How does one attain "friend" status with TheRUMP?

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So what did she do that was illegal
Oct 5, 2016 7:02PM PDT
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Your question.....Benghazi
Oct 6, 2016 3:36AM PDT

As for the insane list of 'accomplishments'.........NONE accomplished anything except the bipartisan support for the first responders. Everything else on that list ended in FAILURE. "most traveled" means NOTHING if nothing good comes out of that travel.

She's got a record regarding 'women's and children's support' and it's lousy to say the least and horrendous to say the worst when it came to that 13 year old child that she trashed in open court to get that child's rapist off (that she laughed about later).

Her own husband was on stage yesterday trashing Obamacare, and every news agency out there is reporting how many States now are down to only having ONE insurance carrier available to 'choose' which has skyrocketed the costs to double and triple premiums and deductibles already instead of that infamous 'savings of $2500 per family....NOT each member covered as was told to the American people'. Those deductibles aren't for each family either....it's PER family member PER YEAR, so there is never going to be a savings. Her husband has a sodium pentothal moment and they are scrambling trying to figure out how to yank it and him back.

Her failures have far exceeded anything she could ever try to brag about, which is why her campaign doesn't even bother to try and has gone completely the other way, just as BO did.....trash and destroy the competition and stay off topic regarding actual policies and promises that you know you can't even hope to get passed.

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check out her new site...
Oct 6, 2016 1:31PM PDT
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Quit making crap up
Oct 4, 2016 10:04AM PDT

One day someone will sue you for slander, even if only by innuendo.

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RE:even if only by innuendo.
Oct 5, 2016 1:27PM PDT
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RE: More BULL
Oct 3, 2016 11:46AM PDT

In YOUR post?

The Clintons closed the blind trust and put it ALL of THEIR MONEY in the Clinton Foundation?....And now they are giving it away?

Is this the money you say they are putting in their foundation?

Accusations that Hillary Clinton padded her own pockets by deducting charitable donations to the Clinton Foundation appear to be baseless.

An Internet meme circulating during the final weeks of the 2016 presidential campaign purported to reveal financial trickery on the part of Democratic contender Hillary Clinton, who allegedly deducted $1 million from her 2015 income tax return after donating it "to herself" via contributions to the Clinton Foundation.

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Nearly all of the Clinton's resources
Oct 3, 2016 12:34PM PDT

come from the foundation itself.....take a look at her actual income tax return for 2015 since it's now public knowledge. The numbers don't add up regarding their claimed income, BC's 'speeches', his millions of dollars contract with the college her foundation 'invested' in (one pocket to another), and their living expenses. They pull money from the foundation regularly, and that includes their daughter and SIL.

GRANT money isn't 'given' away.....at least not without a price tag at the other end. Follow the money trail.

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LINK! LINK! LINK!
Oct 3, 2016 12:59PM PDT
GRANT money isn't 'given' away.....at least not without a price tag at the other end. Follow the money trail.

And TheRUMP didn't give donations without something in return?

HE doesn't like the way things were?

He wants the benefits WITHOUT making the donations?
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You just don't or refuse to understand
Oct 4, 2016 3:47AM PDT

business vs politics and the influence huge donations can get you. Donations in order to get permits to build a building can't even compare to massive donations in the millions in order to get a uranium deal done with a foreign country is something else entirely.

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So you can't/won't provide a link
Oct 4, 2016 4:15AM PDT

supporting YOUR claim that the Clintons are using money from the Clinton foundation for daily living expenses...That is what you're claiming isn't it?

To pay for their electricity, tv, food...etc, etc

Provide a "link", help me "understand"

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"Clinton Cash" explains it all
Oct 4, 2016 4:57AM PDT
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From YOUR link
Oct 4, 2016 5:03AM PDT
None of the Clintons is on the payroll but they do enjoy first-class flights paid for by the foundation.

YOU claimed and their living expenses.

Do they live in an airplane?
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Their lavish parties and fund raisers
Oct 4, 2016 10:01AM PDT

are all paid for by the foundation itself.....that's part of their 'living expenses'. Follow the money and you will see for yourself how little is spent on 'humanitarian' efforts compared to 'expenses' that are vague at best in their documentation.

Think about it, JP.....they own two or three homes (fully paid for) in extremely expensive areas, have had low paid speaking fees after BC left office until she became SOS when his and her fees became astronomical, had the Foundation AND the State Dept invest in that college that immediately put BC on the payroll for $17 MILLION, have one book out that she published right after leaving the State Dept (and didn't sell much), and the donations to the Foundation rapidly increased. They travel

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My keyboard crapped out on me
Oct 4, 2016 10:16AM PDT

had to shut down and find another one to finish my post....

They travel extensively on the dime of the Foundation....EVERYWHERE they go, even if it has nothing to do with Foundation 'work'....car rentals for staff members are paid for from the foundation and she and Bill travel with staff everywhere they go.

Now.....without ANY products to sell, NO companies with incomes, no NOTHING.....how do they live so lavishly AND end up with a LOSS in 2015 on their taxes, JP?

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RE:Their lavish parties and fund raisers
Oct 4, 2016 12:13PM PDT

Jealous?

They would have to pay me to attend.

They would have to pay me to raise money for a foundation.


RE:Their fund raisers are all paid for by the foundation itself.

You're complaining that money from the foundation is used to raise money for the foundation? DUH?

So the donors are spending their own money on themselves, OR people they invite? Call the cops.

So the donors are spending their own money to raise more money? How original....

So the donors are spending THEIR money on The Clintons?

Are YOU a donor?

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exactly
Oct 4, 2016 10:57PM PDT

And while they are doing that, they are claiming what they gave to them as "charitable contributions" to be taken off their taxes, if they are Americans. If not, then the Clintons are influence peddling to foreigners and using OUR tax money and OUR govt office to enrich themselves.

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Are you saying 2 people
Oct 5, 2016 1:18PM PDT

can take a deduction for ONE/the same "charitable deduction"?

The "donor" AND the Clintons"?

Have YOU ever thought of forming "The James Denison Foundation"?

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One gets the deduction
Oct 5, 2016 2:14PM PDT

The other gets "tax free donation to foundation" so neither pay a tax on it.