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There was a wonderful Glenn Beck segment about the Leftward

Mar 25, 2010 1:52AM PDT

trend of American Government from the Founding through to the present. He got to the half way point to Communism by the Teddy Roosevelt Administration. Anybody know where I can find that particular segment? I've been looking not least because I want to hear how he gets the rest of the way from TR to the present, but also because it was the inspiration for Joh Stewart's hilarious take off on Beck. Have already spent much too much time on YouTube, if anyone knows how to find the episode I'm talking about, Please inform.

Rob

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4 parts
Mar 25, 2010 3:02AM PDT
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(NT) Thank you James, I appreciate it. Rob
Mar 25, 2010 7:12AM PDT
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Oops, that's not it either.
Mar 25, 2010 8:17AM PDT

It was purely a chalk talk beginning with a small circle on the extreme Right of the board which represented the concept of the small early government of the US, and how it grew and grew, and with each iteration of "grew" he drew a larger oval moving leftward along the time line until he reached Teddy Roosevelt at the mid point of his time-line. He also put pictures up on the board as he progressed. I haven't seen the second half of his presentation.

There are inaccuracies of time in his 4 part presentation.

With regard to the second lecture using "historians" who are better known for their writings within the Conservative Institutions than in the halls of Universities. Beck is correct that the US went through multiple bank crises and failures in the late 19th Century ending with the disaster of the 1907 Banking disaster. None of these crashes were comparable with either 1929 or 2008-09, mostly they were about undercapitalization and liquidity. He is correct that it was introduced by Woodrow Wilson, but it was at the request of the business community in order to make banking more secure for their purposes. It wasn't a Progressive idea, it was a Business Community idea.

Progressivism in historical terms is quite firmly defined. It is the Democratic Party of William Jennings Bryan, a prairie Populist and virtual Demagogue. He was never elected President despite 3 shots at it. Mr Beck uses Progressivism as a stick to beat anyone he doesn't like and applies it indiscriminately.

Yes, FDR after nearly 4 years of Republican rule tried many desperate measures to kick-start the economy, but without the infusion of capital through the use of massive deficit financing, which wasn't available at the time. It is generally accepted that the Smoot Hawley Protective Tariff Bill caused the spread of the Depression to European economies. Certainly that's what you'll find in all the reputable histories of the period.

While trying to draw parallels with Hitler, Beck tries to compare the election of FDR and his 100 Days with Hitler and Kristallnacht 5 years later. If you read the books Hitler very quietly and craftily built up his base over a couple of years before beginning to reveal himself. The Nuremburg Laws which struck so heavily at the Jewish population were introduced in 1936, three years after his accession, the march into the Rhineland was the same year. Somehow, I don't recall any of the behaviour of the Nazi Party, or the Communist Party on the part of FDR and the Democrats. They were struggling to legally vote in measures not to target populations, but to help individual people through make work projects. This wasn't oppression it was an attempted rescue.

I could go on at length but the odds are that few have read this far.

Rob

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Mar 25, 2010 3:27AM PDT
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Not available in my region, or so it says
Mar 25, 2010 4:27AM PDT

but caught James' link. I actually thought he did a nice job. I'm not one to hang on Beck's every word but will give him credit doing thoughtful presentations unlike Rush and some others.

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Mar 25, 2010 5:00AM PDT

My link is to the Jon Stewart show in Canada, and not available in the US.

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Yeah, that's the Jon Stewart parody,I'm looking for the Beck
Mar 25, 2010 8:20AM PDT

original, but thanks JP.

Rob

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Was it this one?
Mar 25, 2010 5:46AM PDT
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In the words of an old song, "Nope, that ain't it." Rob
Mar 25, 2010 7:23AM PDT

But thanks anyway.

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Oh, and Beck's analysis of the Federal Reserve is wrong
Mar 25, 2010 8:29AM PDT

There were 3 separate Central Banks periodically during the 19th Century, including one introduced in 1791 to 1811. Both Jefferson and Madison were opposed, and it was allowed to lapse during Madison's Presidency.

If something keeps getting voted in, it seems likely that it is a necessity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System

Rob

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If something keeps getting voted in...
Mar 25, 2010 12:00PM PDT
If something keeps getting voted in, it seems likely that it is a necessity.

The Federal Reserve was not voted in, not directly by the people anyway. Yes, Congress voted it in, but that's because they abrogated their power and their duty to it. I also think it was an end run around the Treasury Department at the time, not unlike FDR's attempt to stuff the Supreme Court, which failed, but had it's effect.
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It's probably the one reserved....
Mar 25, 2010 11:56AM PDT

...for extreme Beck viewers. Need a subscription for that one.