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The United States is no longer a Democracy study proves.

http://gawker.com/study-the-u-s-is-an-oligarchy-1563363760

The study was conducted by Princeton academics and colleagues at Northwestern for the 10 year period 1981 through 2002.

" A new study by researchers from Princeton and Northwestern Universities finds that America's government policies reflect the wishes of the rich and of powerful interest groups, rather than the wishes of the majority of citizens.

" The researchers examined close to 1,800 U.S. policy changes in the years between 1981 and 2002; then, they compared those policy changes with the expressed preferences of the median American, at the 50th percentile of income; with affluent Americans, at the 90th percentile of income; and with the position of powerful interest and lobbying groups.

" The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence. Our results provide substantial support for theories of Economic Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism... "

By definition, an Oligarchy is a wealthy elite unrepresentative of society as a whole. Popular support is meaningless. Gun Control is popular with the figure exceeding 80% according to numerous well conducted surveys. Seen any meaningful changes in gun control?

Tax reform, as in eliminating loopholes and preferential treatment for the wealthy, is very popular. Seen any of that?

Rob
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(NT) we are a Republic!

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RE: we are a Republic!

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An THAT makes a difference....HOW?

Republic

a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.

Democracy

a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

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Don't you know that a Republic is a variety of Democracy?

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A Republic is a government without a King, end of statement. Soviet Republics weren't Democratic, but the English Constitutional Monarchy following the various Reform Acts of the 19th Century became one. Whether you recognize it or not.

A Democracy relates to the sharing of the decision-making power among the people. A Representative Democracy, as most democracies are, involves the election by the public at lage of Representatives to carry on the business of the County, or City or State or the Country, so that we the public aren't spending years of our lives in committee meetings.

If you told The Founding Fathers that America wouldn't be a Democracy, they'd have thrown up their hands and said "Then why are we doing this?"

And in the early years it was a two branch government, divided between Legislative and Executive Branches. The Judicial branch counted for little before Justice John Marshall asserted its authority circa 1825.

The US until recently, call it the last 30 years at least tried to be a Democracy of the Republican form. Then, with Reagan, it quit trying and became the preserve of Oligarchs.

You have complained that I repeat things you already know. Well, if you can be wrong on this very fundamental level, why should I assume that you know anything factual, Sue?

Rob

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And we elect the representatives.

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Unfortunately, it's become a choice between one rich white guy backed by other rich white guys or another.

Diana

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Another article on the subject, this from Business Insider.

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http://www.businessinsider.com/major-study-finds-that-the-us-is-an-oligarchy-2014-4

" The report, "Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens" (PDF), used extensive policy data collected between 1981 and 2002 to empirically determine the state of the U.S. political system.

" After sifting through nearly 1,800 U.S. policies enacted in that period and comparing them to the expressed preferences of average Americans (50th percentile of income), affluent Americans (90th percentile), and large special interests groups, researchers concluded that the U.S. is dominated by its economic elite.

" The peer-reviewed study, which will be taught at these universities in
September, says: "The central point that emerges from our research is
that economic elites and organized groups representing business
interests have substantial independent impacts on US government policy,
<b>while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no
independent influence." "</b>

Rob

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