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The Students are coming

Mar 25, 2018 7:21AM PDT

I've been asking for years , Where are the students ?
I was born in 1955 and watched all of the race riots, rallies about stopping the Vietnam war , King shot , more marches, Kennedy's shot , more marches .The SDS marches here in Chi and the Dem Nat. Convention in 69 (?)
Tin soldiers and Nixon's coming , Kent State students shot ,4 dead in Ohio...

My point is it seems after the sixties , early seventy's I really haven't seen the students so involved in a movement like yesterday's March for Life  and am So Proud of these students for getting back in the mix and trying to protect their future .
I'm sorry for the reasons they have to march but Now ,
Watch Out Washington and the NRA !
The Student's Are Coming and They're Pissed OFF ! Go Get'em Kids!

Post was last edited on March 25, 2018 7:29 AM PDT

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*** for tat
Mar 26, 2018 4:29AM PDT

It's what the repubs did with BO.

If BO wants it the answer is no.

If the child wants it the answer is no.

Seems like a dumb way to run a business.

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You are completely ignoring/forgetting
Mar 26, 2018 6:20AM PDT

that Harry Reid ran the Senate into the ground....he removed the 60 in order to get BO's agenda passed or pocketing all the House bills that passed, even with bi-partisan support and refused to allow a vote, knowing the chances were good that it would pass with bi-partisan support and gave BO the cover of not having to veto anything.

Even with complete majority control over BOTH Houses, the ONLY thing BO accomplished in 8 years was Obamacare, and even that was done with threats, bribes, and lies to his OWN party....everything else done was by EO because he knew nothing would pass even with complete control in both Houses of Congress.

Liberals love to talk about how Republicans wouldn't let anything of his pass, but you're repeating a lie hoping people will believe it. Republicans even got his whole cabinet and admin positions filled....whereas Schumer won't let anybody get confirmed.

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BO and Reid
Mar 26, 2018 6:45AM PDT

Worked very well together.

They knew how to play the game.

When repubs came out at the start and said 'make BO a one term prez' it became obvious the way the game needed to be played.

It looks like they played the game well enough to give BO 8yrs as prez.

I suppose that was 8yrs of pain for you.

8yrs of adding things to your grudge list.

What are you going to do when the next prez is Sanders?

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Since YOU brought up statements for the 'game'
Mar 26, 2018 9:25AM PDT

It wasn't Reps that said it, it was MITCH only who did.

So, Reid can say 'Romney didn't pay taxes' even though it was an outright lie (he admitted to it in a later CNN televised interview bragging "it worked, didn't it" ) amid all the other outrageous comments he made against Republicans, including John McCain, and it's ok for YOU to bring up 'history' but I'm not supposed to? Come on, Bob....you aren't 'allowed' to criticize ME for things YOU do as well and get away with it.

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Short term memory is going.
Mar 26, 2018 10:43AM PDT

Who ARE these people??? Is George R. still Governor in Michigan???

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It's a little tough
Mar 26, 2018 11:19AM PDT

To discuss things with someone who lives in the past without bringing up things that happened in the past.

I'm more concerned with the child we have driving the bus today.

Yes the dems are doing their best to try and block the child.

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So even when Trump does something good
Mar 26, 2018 11:26AM PDT

for the country, you are okay with the DEMS blocking it whenever they can?

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Doesn't matter how much good Trump accomplishes
Mar 26, 2018 4:14PM PDT

the Liberals will still be saying "Give us Hillary" and "Crucify Trump".

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No
Mar 26, 2018 6:02PM PDT

But that's the way politics works today.

Good or bad for the country does not factor in.

Good or bad for getting reelected does factor in.

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You may not believe this
Mar 27, 2018 7:36AM PDT

but even if BO had done something good for this country, I would have admitted it.....unfortunately, I couldn't find even one thing that met that bar....and I openly campaigned against his policies. Can you say the same for Trump? I don't believe you can bring yourself to do that since every post of yours is either defending the DEMS' actions against him, both blocking his policies even when THEY agreed with the SAME policies two or three years ago under BO, and on a personal level. I don't recall the Conservatives/Republicans attacking BO and/or his family on a personal level....if you can show me that, we can have that discussion. Even anti-Trump establishment Republicans attack him whenever the mood strikes them.....when I would prefer that they NOT be hypocritical about the policies they all voted for before but refuse to now or vote against them because of personal issues (like McCain who I believe has got mental issues at this point and should resign).

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I gave BO
Mar 27, 2018 8:41AM PDT

Credit for turning the economy around and that's it.

As for what the dems are doing today I understand it but that does not mean I agree with it.

The child's policies?
Lower taxes.....he signed Ryan's tax plan which I thought was skewed to the wealthy but sold as a middle class tax cut.
It will take years to see if that was a good or bad thing.

Build a wall.....I'm a bit of a skeptic about this.
I would like to see an off the record candid comment from the border patrol people as to the value of this.
Is this what they want or is this what the child wants?

Immigration.....the child wants to limit this.
I don't have an opinion on this.

I did not like the child from the start....that does not mean I liked Clinton.

Where did you see me defending the dems?

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RE:There wasn't ANY air time for interviewing the kids who
Mar 25, 2018 12:28PM PDT
There wasn't ANY air time for interviewing the kids who REFUSED to go to the rally because they KNOW gun control isn't the answer

Well I saw some student on the boob tube today from an American network that said "gun control wasn't THE answer"

Is there ONE answer?...Perhaps gun control is PART OF THE ANSWER.

One small step for man...one giant leap for mankind?
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RE: law-abiding gun owner
Mar 25, 2018 12:49PM PDT

Can you tell by looking at someone if they are NOT law abiding...UNTIL they become NOT law abiding?

Can a law-abiding gun owner have a mental illness?

Should a person with a mental illness be permitted to have a weapon?

Should the person that wants to have a weapon pass some sort of mental test....BEFORE possession/YEARLY?

Since YOU believe a citizen should have the right to bear arms....would you pay for your own mental illness check yearly?(you pay for medical expenses out of pocket down there don't you?)....You want to pack heat...You pay the cost...You want to drive a car...you pay the price....don't ask for others to pay for "YOU to exercise YOUR right".

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what if it's paranoia
Mar 25, 2018 1:01PM PDT

and they never leave their home? No right to self defense of home and life there?

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RE:No right to self defense of home and life there?
Mar 25, 2018 1:26PM PDT

Perhaps they could invent a device/weapon that ONLY works while in the home....

PS...I'm glad I don't live there....

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Good points.
Mar 26, 2018 6:26AM PDT

Addressed by the link in my "research" post. Much longer than a sound bite, though.
My suggestion was to acquire a mind reader Chief of State.
Yours?

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RE:THEIR weapons of choice
Mar 25, 2018 1:05PM PDT

Would YOU support a ban on Assault type weapons?

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Keyword?
Mar 25, 2018 1:07PM PDT

ASSAULT. Only place for those is in the military.
Dafydd.

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According to that labeling by Dems
Mar 25, 2018 2:42PM PDT

every gun made could be considered to be an assault type weapon, Dafydd...that's why there is so much resistance by gun owners and the NRA against them. It's the camel's nose under the tent that eventually gets everything banned or confiscated......Dems like labeling and they use it regularly to describe anything and everything and everybody who doesn't agree with them....or haven't you noticed?

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RE:It's the camel's nose under the tent
Mar 25, 2018 7:42PM PDT

First they let you have assault weapons, THEN they let you have tanks, and ex-navy personnel will want there own battleship....

WHEN will it end?

OR does YOUR nose under the tent theory only apply to REMOVING weapons?

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You're referring to semi-auto handguns e.g.
Mar 26, 2018 6:34AM PDT

Correct. But the rifles have more than longer barrels for accuracy. Almost by definition they use larger caliber, heavier slugs, more powder behind them. And more accuracy under normal rapid fire because of the steadier grip. The gun magazines [paper, not metal] that I read do their self-defense pistol testing at seven yards. Judging from news reports of police actions, that's about the limit for confident shooting under stress conditions. Rifle is much better. That's the weapon Dafydd means. FYI.

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You are showing your ignorance of
Mar 26, 2018 9:29AM PDT

handguns, their power, and the ammo used......AND the VA TECH killer managed to pull off one of the most mass killed with a handgun proving he was pretty damned accurate with it.

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A friend in the Navy had a Dirty Harry pistol.
Mar 26, 2018 10:49AM PDT

Used to go shooting, and drinking, in the desert. Got too casual with the magnum loads, the recoil took his forearm up enough that the hammer cut his head. Hoo-eee! Guys got fun!

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Back in the button-down Hoover days
Mar 26, 2018 10:54AM PDT

of the FBI, only weapon was the regulation .38 revolver. It was a big deal one year when they got permission to carry .357 magnums, Colt Python, I think, on the grounds it could go through the sheet metal of a getaway car and crack the engine block. Or something.

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so, even you admit
Mar 26, 2018 11:29AM PDT

that handguns can be and are just as powerful as an AK......the so-called 'assault' weapon that DEMS want banned. Like I said....ban that one and it's only the first step to banning everything.

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And here she is again.....trying to make herself
Mar 27, 2018 7:41AM PDT

relevant....and proving my point once more

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/03/26/dem-rep-wasserman-schultz-introduces-legislation-requiring-background-checks-ammunition-buyers/

There are already five States that have this in place....needless to say, every one of them are run by liberal DEMS....no surprise there.

And the camel's nose just keeps poking........because background checks for ammo won't stop there before the next step is to ban the ammo completely....no ammo makes the guns they use worthless.

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So all of those students crying
Mar 25, 2018 5:49PM PDT

after the shootings were just Acting and they weren't Really hurting ?
It was All a set up from the Dems.?
Tell the families this to make them feel better !

I do believe in the second amendment but it's time to rebuild it and regulate the type and ferocity of fire power/ weapon a civilian needs .
We don't need Tanks, assault planes/ helicopters or grenade launchers or 20 round clips

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why do so many want these guns?
Mar 25, 2018 9:17PM PDT

Some are paranoid, no matter what. Many however look at what's happening all over the world in other countries, (remember Arab Spring?), and see increasing violence in our country. Imported Terrorist on the rise. Illegal alien criminals pouring across our border. They want to be prepared, just in case. The 2nd Amendment is there for several hundred years. We had that war initiated by The Abominable Tariff, Abolitionists, Slave Owners, The Missouri-Kansas War. The 2nd Amendment still there. Both Union and Confederate soldiers took their guns home. Many fought using their own arms in that war. During the Indian Wars in USA, it was settlers who were armed and often successfully defended their homes and families against terrorist attacks.

In this life bad things happen to good people, it's the history of mankind. That doesn't mean we just give up to the evil men do, but need adequate means to stand against it, for ourselves, and for other good people.

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(NT) its use
Mar 25, 2018 11:24PM PDT