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The situation in Iraq

by Dan McC / September 30, 2004 7:31 AM PDT
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Re: The situation in Iraq
by RB2D2 / September 30, 2004 4:18 PM PDT
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Half of me is saddened and the other half is very enraged. Has our invasion of Iraq been worth all the lives that have been lost since then and in the months to come? Maybe years. There doesn't seem to be an end. Even Rumsfeld says things are going to get a lot worse. Is all this horror just for some vague US political gain? Is the intention to totally distroy the country?

Why don't we concentrate on the terrorist, their leaders, hideouts and training camps and stop the killing of the Iraqi people?

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Re: The situation in Iraq
by EdH / September 30, 2004 6:42 PM PDT

May I point out that the car bombs were set off by terrorists, not US forces. You seem to be confused on that point. Do you think they will go away if we leave Iraq?

The terrorists, their leaders, hideouts and training camps in Afghanistan have been for the most part decimated and our forces continue to fight them there. Contrary to what the left says that effort has not been diminished.

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Re: The situation in Iraq
by Dave Konkel [Moderator] / September 30, 2004 10:52 PM PDT

Hi, Ed.

Yes, they were set off by terrosist, who are as despicable as their actions. But how many Iraqis were killed by terrorism in the last year of Saddam's regime? Even including those killed and tortured in his jails, a lot fewer, I warrant. yes, he was a very bad man, and the world and Iraq are theoretically better off without him. But in reality, I'm not sure that's true. And we certainly aren't any safer with him gone, terroists vying for control of an Iraq on the verge of civil war by our own intelligence estimates (a situation predicted by an intelligence brief that Bush chose to ignore -- I wonder why Kerry didn't mention it last night!) that may well create an Iran clone in Iraq.

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Re: The situation in Iraq
by EdH / October 1, 2004 1:24 AM PDT

A lot fewer? I guess it depends on your definition of terrorist.

Have you seen the footage of the mass graves? According to UN figures as many as half a million kids under 5 were killed as a result of the wonderful sanctions that were supposed to weaken Saddam.
http://www.geocities.com/iraqinfo/index.html?page=/iraqinfo/sanctions/sarticles3/futility.html

So much for the swell idea of bringing in the UN.

"the world and Iraq are theoretically better off without him. But in reality, I'm not sure that's true."

I am.

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Re: The situation in Iraq
by Mark5019 / September 30, 2004 8:56 PM PDT

well the slight problem is those who are killing the people are mixed in with the people, hide in there mosques hospitals.

and were fighting a pc war heaven forbid we damage a mosque.

that country was a disaster from the begining of time.

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Re: The situation in Iraq
by Glenda / October 1, 2004 1:36 AM PDT

"Why don't we concentrate on the terrorist, their leaders, hideouts and training camps and stop the killing of the Iraqi people?"

Posted by: RB2D2 Posted on: 09/30/2004 11:18 PM

Rosalie, you better read that again!! WE didn't kill those people!!!!!!!!!!! Sheesh!
Glenda

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Re: The situation in Iraq
by C1ay / September 30, 2004 10:17 PM PDT
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Just another highlight on the actions of the few that ignores the work of the other 25,000,000 or so which are trying to build a new Iraq. Typical left side reporting...

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(NT) (NT) Sorry, Clay. **Eyes**
by Dan McC / October 1, 2004 12:06 AM PDT
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And this only emphasizes
by TONI H / October 1, 2004 12:10 AM PDT
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the fact that the terrorists want business back as usual and have been trying to push that country back to that fear level. The timing is the crux of these new and more aggressive attacks......and with the help of 1000 Iraqi military, over 100 insurgents were killed just this morning with one of our own going down. 100 to 1 aren't bad odds.........

TONI

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Playing the odds?
by Dan McC / October 1, 2004 12:24 AM PDT

Well, it sure doesn't seem like we've killed 110,000 terrorists in Iraq, so those odds may not hold up over the long run.

Business as usual in Iraq was a contained dictator with little influence outside his boarders, and virtually none in the US. It doesn't look so bad in comparison.

Dan

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Re: Playing the odds?
by C1ay / October 1, 2004 1:07 AM PDT
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Business as usual in Iraq was a dictator that gassed people and ran them thru shredders.

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Re: Open your eye, Clay
by C1ay / October 1, 2004 1:08 AM PDT
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This is expected so it's not news.

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(NT) (NT) OK, don't.
by Dan McC / October 1, 2004 1:17 AM PDT
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A Bomber?s Eye View of Our Blue Marble
by Catgic / September 30, 2004 11:01 PM PDT
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Regarding the situation in Iraq, with Saddam out of power, the fighting factions would be doing street bombing against each other any way. U.S. troops patrolling the city just makes for good video and sound bites for CNN, FOX, MSNBC and the rest. When you ?play? with guns and bombs, people get hurt and killed. That?s what war is?guns, bombs and death.

Zoom back away from the Boob-Vee with me, Netizens. You say you?re standing out in the front yard. Good start. Now go up to about Flight Level 240?that?s good?hover there and tell me what you see. The world looks a lot different when you get the ?Big Picture,? doesn?t it?

Now that I got you all into the ?Big Picture? frame of mind, let me share some of my thoughts and ?planning data.?

Does the ?anti-US Islamic revolution? sound like a news flash, whether in Iraq, Iran or wherever? It?s been ongoing for decades. Remember Libya, Egypt, Lebanon...are you with me conflict fans? Over the decades the U.S. chose to swat Islamic flies, as their Middle East policy, like some American buffalo swishing its tail. This was the policy until the Saudi terrorist delivered us a Death-From-The-Sky wake-up call on 9/11.

So here we are, Cold War won and the EU and Germans prodding us to get out of Rhein-Mein, Ramstein?et al. Turkey working hard to hold us up by asking for exorbitant payments to keep our bases in Incirlik, Ankara?et al. Then on 9/11?the Big Oops & Gotcha, the fly-swatter-tail-swishing policy approach no werkum.

What to do? Well, all the bases in the EU are going away and Turkey is getting very greedy.

Hello! Hurry up! All the airports are closing, where shall I land my C-5 Galaxy tomorrow?

I got it. Let?s set up a mega-presence in Baghdad-Ville. We can set up a Center for Counter-Terrorist OPS as well as keep a close eye on the Middle East oil patch, the Kazhakstan, et al?oil patches and the Nuke ?Em goofer governments of Pakistan and India (same gene-pool, different religions).

Sounds like a plan to me.

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