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The Right To Repair Bill. Did you know? (Updated)

by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / June 22, 2016 6:24 PM PDT

UPDATE: shows it was squashed.

I need to spend time on the details about this bill but bad news in my opinion.

(Original post below)

For years I've seen the industry trend more and more to where you can only fix something by replacing it. Now it is expensive to have a good tech to do work so this bill may further impede those that offer repair services.

I'll pause here and offer a video on this. Links there as well.

Tell me what you think about this bill. Better yet, tell your congress representatives.

Post was last edited on June 26, 2016 11:37 AM PDT

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by Bob__B / June 23, 2016 10:27 AM PDT

I suspect this has a lot to do with money.
If you fix it the maker does not make any money.
You make money....labor+parts.
If I throw the unit in the trash and buy a new one the maker makes money.

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I ran repair shops long ago. (Yes, it's all about money)
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / June 23, 2016 11:34 AM PDT
In reply to: Money

And one of the problems was CTR (cost to repair.) When the cost to repair gets to 50% or more than replacement it's often best to not offer repair.

Here the minimum counter charge is over 100USD so that means that a lot of gear that could be repaired is replaced.

And here is where you get a good laugh (?) There are folk that want the repair person to discount the work because the device is only 50 bucks to replace. It's not worth it to go over the cost of the repair shop but you will get folk that want the shop or repair person to do the repair for below cost. That might happen if they find the right shop.

The real issue is in the higher cost devices. Those are cost effective to repair and the right to repair bill is where this matters.

Post was last edited on June 23, 2016 11:35 AM PDT

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You guys are absolutely correct,
by Oldartq / June 23, 2016 4:40 PM PDT

it's all about money. Of course in this video, he think it's all the other guys fault. Of course I am not so sure. I have mix feeling about this whole thing. About protecting secret, I think that's bunch of bull, these guys got patents up the yangyung, why would they worry about secrets.

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Pretty complicated issue !
by itsdigger / June 23, 2016 6:17 PM PDT

After that fiasco between the F.B.I and Apple , I don't see congress passing a bill like this.
Apple can afford to fight this , they made 30.57 billion U.S. dollars in just the first quarter of 2015.
The U.S is broke.

I know this goes deeper than Apple but they are the big dogs in this fight and if they don't lose , SCOTUS can't force any of the others to hand out parts or schematics either.

The consumer is screwed .

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Right To Repair
by Marrydaniel / July 22, 2016 1:02 AM PDT

well that depends if the cost of repairing is exceeding the actual cost of product then I guess going for repair is not a good option.

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Auto and other industries
by Steven Haninger / August 3, 2016 5:25 AM PDT

It would seem that if automobile manufacturers wanted to protect their dealership's service business, the could find a way to cripple the ECU or trigger service codes if certain repairs were done using aftermarket parts. Other manufacturing industries could follow suit. One would think that the pressure to not cause damage to the environment due to excessive waste should be a good argument against such protections but, unfortunately, we need to deal with politicians more interested in preserving their own careers than in actually serving the best interests of future generations. As well our economy does thrive on wastefulness and may collapse if we actually use common sense.

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by ArthDev / September 15, 2016 8:30 AM PDT

Thanks you very much, it's good !

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by makrelmanden / September 25, 2016 6:49 AM PDT

When my pc broke I bought a new motherboard.
And it works perfect!! Happy


Name of shop removed by moderator.

Post was last edited on September 25, 2016 7:03 AM PDT

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by deejaymisty1 / September 29, 2016 6:40 AM PDT

What is Repair Bill?

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See the link for an explanation,
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / September 29, 2016 7:19 AM PDT
In reply to: doubt
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keeping up with the times
by porsche10x / April 9, 2017 3:39 PM PDT

I remember (actually not that long ago) when my 25 year old Magnavox TV (CRT) lost vertical deflection. I went to the library, got the schematics from Sam's Photofacts, fired up the ole 50 year old Tektronix 530A oscilloscope and my DVM, traced the problem to a bad 10 cent capacitor. Replaced it and, voila, back in business. A few years later, my newer Panasonic 27 inch TV, also CRT failed with nearly the same symptoms. After spending twenty minutes trying to get the back off, I just gave up and carried it down to the curb for disposal. Replaced it with a new Sony LCD, of course. My, how times have changed.

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Well done.
by Dafydd Forum moderator / April 9, 2017 3:49 PM PDT

When I was about 8 my parents bought me an electronics kit for Christmas. It consisted of some paper circuit boards some clips and springs which enabled you to make a radio, burglar alarm ,moisture detector etc.
I was fascinated Grin

Post was last edited on April 9, 2017 3:52 PM PDT

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