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The Religion of Peace? LIES!

by James Denison / December 9, 2015 9:06 AM PST

It's not a "religion" it's a "theocracy" and as such is automatically against our American govt, since it's goal is to replace it, same as Communism. All Islam is our enemy.

Can you feel the peace here in France?

330 weapons of war found in raid on Mosques in France.

"POLICE investigating the Paris terror attacks have shut down three mosques in a series of raids to close the net on Islamic extremists. Security officials found jihadist documents at the mosque where yesterday's raids took place.
They have placed nine people under house arrest. Another 22 have been banned from leaving the country Mr Cazeneuve said.
France has been under a state of emergency since 130 people were killed in a series of terror attacks in Paris on November 13. Since then, some 2,235 homes and buildings have been raided, 232 people taken into custody, and 334 weapons confiscated.
Cazeneuve said the number of weapons apprehended so far is staggering.
He said: "In 15 days we have seized one-third of the quantity of war-grade weapons that are normally seized in a year." This latest raid comes as authorities in a number of European countries crackdown on mosques suspected of being a breeding ground for extremists..."


More on French "Peaceful Muslims"

"French investigators have been called racists, a Langy-sur-Marne based mosque was raided this week anyway… And they found a large collection of 7.62 Kalashnikov ammo along with boxes of Islamic State (ISIS) propaganda videos. Police also found recordings of religious chants “glorifying the martyrs of jihad linked to the terrorist organization Jabhat al-Nusra”, the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda, the prefecture added. France isn’t messing around. They’ve arrested more than 230 muslims and collected more than 324 weapons. Many others are under travel bans and house arrest. They have shut down three mosques and have raided more than 2,300 homes."


TRUMP looks better and better for next president as each new day dawns in America! May he follow the French example and go after these "religiously permitted" Liars.

Remember, Theocracy is NOT a Democracy nor a Republic. "Religion" is only a banner it hides behind. Islam is completely incompatible with America. And what is Obama up to, our crypto-Muslim (religiously approved to Lie to infidels) President?

"Compare that to the response we saw from President Barack Obama, who tried to blame the attacks on San Bernardino on “workplace violence” for days, while calling on his Attorney General to prosecute those who speak out against radical Islam."

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Read "Sams" comment there.
by James Denison / December 9, 2015 10:36 AM PST
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/france-raids-mosques-what-they-found-inside-proves-trump-is-right/#comment-81381

it may not line up exactly, but starts off;
"ISLAM – Essential Facts to Know—Truth cannot be an “insult” nor a “phobia”….just irrefutable.
by copyright c Samuel A. Nigro, M.D. January, 2011+January 2015
1. Islam is not a religion of the one true God. Without TRANSCENDENTAL LOVE, Islam is a POLITICAL SYSTEM masquerading as a religion…There is no possible “separation of church and state” because the Koran and the Sharia makes them identical for Islam. In this way, Islam is unconstitutional in America.....(lots more at comment on page)
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Self defense.
by JP Bill / December 9, 2015 12:30 PM PST
Protecting Your Church Against Mass Violence

Violence in church is really nothing new. In fact, about 10 percent of all mass shootings happen in church or church-owned grounds

Statistics (from 1999 to February of 2015) demonstrate 971 “deadly force incidents” in churches or faith-based operations. Of those, only about 200 incidents are from people who knew each other (friends or relatives) doing violence upon each other. The rest are outside-in incidents. Only about 47 of those incidents were religion based (so called “hate crimes”) and 576 of those incidents included firearms. Of these incidents, 375 occurred during “service” hours and the rest during off-hours .


Pastors And Faithful Pick Up Gun Training: 'We Need It In Church'

For seven years, Geof Peabody — owner and instructor at Peabody’s Shooting Range — has been teaching his fellow church members how to use guns.

Peabody said interest in his class has been growing among the faithful, as they feel a need to be prepared in case of an attack.

The shooting at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in South Carolina Wednesday that left nine black parishioners dead is reinforcing that feeling, and some church members’ belief that they may need to pack a gun when they go to worship.


Perhaps ALL sides should negotiate an "Arms Agreement", maybe even A Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons.
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What irritates me is the term "radical"
by James Denison / December 10, 2015 5:15 AM PST
In reply to: Self defense.

I keep hearing them call these terrorist "radical" Islamist and they aren't. They are "fervent" Islamists. They are doing exactly what the Koran teaches them. Just like many Christians are "lukewarm" there are also such in Islam. The terrorist are not "lukewarm" to what their Koran teaches them, but they are "fervently" following it's teachings. This is how Mohammed founded Islam, it is what's been done by Islam through centuries, it's what the "fervent" among them still do. You can't "radicalize" Islam, because it was founded upon the principle of radical, so those who follow a radical religion are not themselves "radicals" but instead are "fervent" followers of their religion. This also is not just a religion, but a Theocracy. Such is forbidden in our country and therefore unless the religious part can divorce itself from the theocratic part concerning taking rule over others, oppressing others, taxing others for the benefit of ONLY the Islamic adherents within the Theocracy, with deliberate discrimination against others who are not, then the entire Theocracy movement called Islam should be banned from this country.

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Or do you mean "orthodox"?
by Steven Haninger / December 10, 2015 12:05 PM PST

This would mean a strict adherence to the earliest traditions established by their religious law. We we use the word in other religions too. Even at that, variations in interpretation cause clouding of what is contained in written word. Our own secular laws aren't always clear as to what punishments will happen for offences committed. An act that is punishable by death does not necessarily mean an execution will take place but there are always going to be people who push for leniency and those who want no exceptions. I'd say that to be "fervent" adds another dimension altogether. That dimension includes the enjoyment of doling out punishment rather than a clinical detachment from it. These radical Muslims who terrorize us seem to be doing this almost for pleasure. I've not read the Koran so don't know if revelling in the killing of "infidels" is part of their tradition.

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Trump...temporarily stop all Muslims from coming here
by TONI H / December 10, 2015 11:19 AM PST

Many 'spokespersons' on tv have commented, including Paul Ryan unfortunately, that it goes against our Constitution to do this; however,

FDR did it and Carter did to Iran with a Congressional Act that allowed it.

AND...OUR Constitution is ONLY in place for CITIZENS of the USA.....it DOESN'T cover 'immigrants' or 'refugees' PRIOR to them coming here, which is how that Congressional Act allows that banning.

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the problem with Liberals...
by James Denison / December 10, 2015 1:54 PM PST

...the Constitution changes each day according to whatever they think it is, or want it to be.

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All I say is so what!!!
by renegade600 / December 10, 2015 2:34 PM PST

What is found in the different mosque is absolutely no different that what is found in the christian run militia compounds around the US. There are bad eggs in every religion.

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Sorry, but I disagree with your comparison
by Steven Haninger / December 11, 2015 1:43 AM PST

There's a world of difference in those who do things in the name of religion and those who do things who just happen to be (or mostly be) of a particular faith. There's a world of difference between a designated "house of worship" built for a particular religious community and a "meeting" house that might have an attached armory. AFAIK, militias are not out to seek those not of their faith and kill them. Militias tend to be organized against what they feel are unjust secular forces. Please rethink your statement.

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no reason to rething
by renegade600 / December 11, 2015 2:37 AM PST

no reason to rethink when the comparison is exactly the same. You just want to justify your hate with no regard to the truth. There are over 1.5 billion muslims and most are peaceful and most hate the extremists who are giving them a bad name . It is people like you who have absolutely no idea of what a real muslim is. I often wonder how much we are being fed about what the quran says is taken out of context.

look at Christianity, even it says to kill all non believers - when taken out of context.

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So you are presuming I "hate"?...
by Steven Haninger / December 11, 2015 5:19 AM PST
In reply to: no reason to rething

...and it is people like me who have no idea...? Do you truly believe that based on my reply to your post? If so, that says plenty about the depth of your perception and ability to make accurate judgments about other people. Sounds quite shallow to me. Later...

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Steve, defence of one's home and government is never hate
by James Denison / December 11, 2015 8:36 AM PST

It's often even survival. We can't let the truth be twisted into the Lies we have endured for years about "peaceful" Islam. Islam is devoted to violence if able to create "submission" of all that disagrees with it.

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in and out of context
by James Denison / December 11, 2015 8:32 AM PST
In reply to: no reason to rething
"look at Christianity, even it says to kill all non believers - when taken out of context."

I'd like to see that. At least you acknowledge it would be "out of context". The problem with Islam is it's "in context" and many of the "peaceful" like the Ahhmadi prefer to ignore it. Those who are "fervent" take it to heart and seek to fulfill it. Even more confusing is the way in which some Koranic passages are actually in opposition to each other in how to deal with "infidels" and "believers of the book" (uh, what book???? Koran never says). The Koran was written a century or more AFTER Mohammed died, during a power exercising caliphate and at their direction and editing, so even the Muslims can't be sure all that's written there is original from Mohammed.

The Koran teachs to set up a Theocracy. It encourages war when Muslim numbers are strong enough in any country to take it over and make a Theocracy. It also then expects forms of oppression of those who are not Muslim, anything from taxation of the unbeliever to death administered when the unbeliever points out the untruth of Islam. As such, it has no place in America and should be forbidden, not because of religion, but because it presents a conspiracy clearly stated to overthrown instituted governments under which Muslims may be living, even where peace has been extended to them, and to replace it with a Theocracy. As such, those who attempt to do so here are engaged in sedition against America.
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RE:I'd like to see that.
by JP Bill / December 11, 2015 12:05 PM PST
In reply to: in and out of context

Before I go looking....IF/WHEN I find that...exactly what will you do?

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PS Which "version" should I look in?
by JP Bill / December 11, 2015 12:45 PM PST
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why use just one?
by James Denison / December 11, 2015 12:49 PM PST
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RE: why use just one?
by JP Bill / December 11, 2015 12:59 PM PST
In reply to: why use just one?

Before I go looking....IF/WHEN I find that...exactly what will you do?

here's a "teaser"

you shall stone that man or woman to death with stones.

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Oh my, the ignorant twisting of scriptures again
by James Denison / December 11, 2015 1:10 PM PST
In reply to: RE: why use just one?

That's a civil law for the Jews only when in their territory and was part of their Theocracy. It has no application outside of it, other than showing what God disapproves of.

Read Romans chapter 3 and 8 concerning Gentiles who keep a law unto themselves and how God approves of them too.

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RE: Read Romans chapter 3 and 8
by JP Bill / December 11, 2015 1:44 PM PST
Read Romans chapter 3 and 8 concerning Gentiles who keep a law unto themselves and how God approves of them too.

No thank you.

That's a civil law for the Jews only

civil law written in the Bible....ok fine.

If there is found among you, within any of your towns that the Lord your God is giving you, a man or woman who does what is evil in the sight of the Lord your God, in transgressing his covenant, and has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, or the sun or the moon or any of the host of heaven,which I have forbidden, and it is told you and you hear of it, then you shall inquire diligently, and if it is true and certain that such an abomination has been done in Israel, then you shall bring out to your gates that man or woman who has done this evil thing, and you shall stone that man or woman to death with stones.

civil law.?.....served other gods and worshiped them,?

NOW will you provide a link to a different version of the above?

A "Bible" that applies only to ONE country?

Now I understand how ISIS could get confused with the teachings....Just as you are.
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who was the covenant with?
by James Denison / December 11, 2015 5:28 PM PST

Only the Hebrews and it was part of the land covenant. Just like the Jews today can't do temple service, there were things under civil authority they were expected to do only within their own country, same as any other country having it's own laws. The difference is they weren't exporting their civil law, at least not supposed to, and they also realized a difference between the two, which is why they had priests for the religious portion, and judges and eventually kings for the civil portion in their lives, but this was all limited within their own portion or country. If they left the country, then they were required only to confess God and live a good life according to his personal moral code, especially since they would be living elsewhere under other country's authorities.

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You wanted
by JP Bill / December 11, 2015 7:08 PM PST
"look at Christianity, even it says to kill all non believers - when taken out of context."

I'd like to see that.


I provided.
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from the Old Testament?
by James Denison / December 12, 2015 12:10 PM PST
In reply to: You wanted

and that wasn't even about unbelievers, but law breakers, who most likely believed, but disobedient.

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RE:from the Old Testament?
by JP Bill / December 12, 2015 12:37 PM PST

WHY would I know that? You're the "Bible Thumper", you tell me.

that wasn't even about unbelievers, but law breakers, who most likely believed, but disobedient.

If there is found among you, within any of your towns that the Lord your God is giving you, a man or woman who does what is evil in the sight of the Lord your God, in transgressing his covenant, and has gone and served other gods and worshiped them or the sun or the moon or any of the host of heaven,which I have forbidden, and it is told you and you hear of it, then you shall inquire diligently, and if it is true and certain that such an abomination has been done in Israel, then you shall bring out to your gates that man or woman who has done this evil thing, and you shall stone that man or woman to death with stones.

Sure sounds like it's about "unbelievers". Of course I'm just a layman, I see what I read, I don't "interpret".

Perhaps you can bring this question up at services tomorrow....get a second/third opinion.

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RE: It has no application outside of it, other than showing
by JP Bill / December 11, 2015 1:51 PM PST

It has no application outside of it, other than showing what God disapproves of.

What he disapproves of......AND how they should be punished

If there is found among you, within any of your towns that the Lord your God is giving you, a man or woman who does what is evil in the sight of the Lord your God, in transgressing his covenant, and has gone and served other gods and worshiped them or the sun or the moon or any of the host of heaven,which I have forbidden, and it is told you and you hear of it, then you shall inquire diligently, and if it is true and certain that such an abomination has been done in Israel, then you shall bring out to your gates that man or woman who has done this evil thing, and you shall stone that man or woman to death with stones.

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Meet Muslim Professor in Tennessee. Rhodes College
by James Denison / December 11, 2015 11:59 AM PST

Memphis.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/leading-us-imam-and-professor-muslims-can-take-property-of-filthy-christians-and-jews-video/

According to him, we are filthy, impure, shirk, evil, polytheist, and oh yeah, all our stuff is really his, soon as he can take it. Are you feeling the love. Are you seeing the "assimilation" into becoming an American? The respect for our laws? The abandonment of Sharia?

Tell me again why they come here? Oh yeah, it's so they can use freedom to become as horrible as those they fear back home. How do I know he fears them? Well, turns out ISIS is after him too now, unless like all Muslims are allowed to do with non Muslims, he's Lying to us. Let's not be too surprised because we've seen that one before, from our crypto-Muslim President.

Don't forget who the bigot is here, it's me and you and anyone else who points out what they are doing, what their aim in America is, our enemy now become domestic.

"Qadhi really steps up his verbal abuse. He says, since “there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah wuzza wuzza,” Christians are “by necessity and by definition … the most evil of all evils.” Like all “unbelievers” and “polytheists,” Christians are “filthy.” They are “najusa” (feces, urine) — “a filthy impure dirty substance.”

Qadhi declares that the prophet Mohammad — and by extension all Muslims — “has been commanded to do jihad.”

Jihad “is a means to establish monotheism on the land.” The prophet had said, “I have been commanded to fight the people until they” convert to Islam. But “if they don’t [convert to Islam,] their life and property are halal [free for the taking] for the Muslims.”"

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RE: ISIS is after him?
by JP Bill / December 11, 2015 12:19 PM PST

The enemy of your enemy is your friend?

ISIS is YOUR friend?

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In Islam
by James Denison / December 11, 2015 12:50 PM PST
In reply to: RE: ISIS is after him?

the rules change. The enemy of your enemy is now two enemies to worry about.

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Tell the Donald to keep flapping his gums
by JP Bill / December 11, 2015 1:01 PM PST
In reply to: In Islam

and you'll have more than two enemies to worry about.

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Our take on Trump.
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that's not unexpected reaction
by James Denison / December 11, 2015 5:29 PM PST
In reply to: Our take on Trump.

It often happens to those who are unwilling to accept a truth they find hard.

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Trump this.
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