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The other Sony copy protection called SUNNCOMM

Dec 7, 2005 4:33AM PST
http://news.com.com/New+Sony+CD+security+risk+found/2100-1002_3-5984764.html

It's not the ROOTKIT that made the news, but the other copy protection Sony has used.

-> Sony's repeating efforts at DRM look to be far too dangerous to allow on the market.

Would you buy a Sony label CD?

If you've been following the news, at first I read that the ROOTKIT would not affect CD sales. Last week, some CDs in the top 10 were now in 50 and below. The numbers speak volumes about how most feel about bungled DRM efforts.

Bob

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Update. The fix or patch is also insecure.
Dec 7, 2005 10:10AM PST
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I have a better idea...
Dec 8, 2005 10:43AM PST

In stead of:
(1) do not use the MediaMax patch, (2) do not use the previously released MediaMax uninstaller, and (3) do not insert a MediaMax-bearing CD into your PC.

Just do not do Sony.

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Found this also
Dec 8, 2005 9:24PM PST
Security IT Hub


-->>Matti Nikki of Finland was the first to figure out just what the uninstaller was doing. It seems the uninstaller puts an ActiveX control called CodeSupport on the target machine even before the uninstall URL can be obtained.<<--

-->>There is a simple way suggested by Halderman and Felten to remove the CodeSupport component from Windows if you have been affected.

From the Start Menu, choose Run, and then type the following (between the brackets without typing the brackets) into the box that appears.
[cmd /k del "%windir%\downloaded program files\codesupport.*"]

That should delete all files associated with control. Please understand that you do this at your own risk, since your security settings may not prevent the software from being installed again.<<---


Happy
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Just my 2 cents
Dec 11, 2005 11:09PM PST

You know technically if you think about it all of these companies are breaking the EULA. In the EULA for software and Audio it says you can make one legal archive for your purposes only. Well with all the time and money that is spent on protecting Data in one form or fashion they are prohibbiting us from making our leagal archive of what we have purchased. What I want to know is why no one has complained about this. Should the companies trying to stop thieves also provide the tools for people that have purchased the prouct the tools to make their 1 legal Archive? Being a Musician and and IT person I am really torn on all sides here. I believe the purpose of being an entertainer is to get you music/message out to as many people as possibe. When CD's originally came out they were only $9.99 which was a very fair price to pay. However Greed from the Record companies has driven up the price. Lord knows it is certainly not the talent with some of the crap they try to pedal us. When you think about the cost factor from when CD was introduced until now the cost has actually gone down on to produce a CD. When a local garage band can produce 100 CD's for $500, make you think that a Rcord Company producing millions has to be paying a fraction of a dollar to produce a CD. Then Software people do not set a good price point for the consumer. Sure we understand that many hours of labor goes into makeing a product but really does it cost $300 to $600 for what some people are asking? When connecting to a server why should we pay for a connection license. Did we not all just buy the OS? In the words of Joe Pesci from the Lethal Weapons series the F**K you in the drive through. Well that is how I am starting to feel from both the record companies and the software companies. Final thought Make it at an afordable price point and people will not find the need as much to steel your stuff. Quite being greedy and be more consumer conscious. And if I purchase something give me the rights to protect my investment by being allowed to make my backup copies.

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Would you buy a Sony label CD?
Dec 7, 2005 10:59AM PST

NO!....I would not.

Amazon offered to refund or replace my Sony label 'To Love Again' by Chris Botti, one of the 50 recalls. I did not trust that the replacement (yet to be distributed) would be 'pure' so I chose the refund.

Miki

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To Me, The Attitude Says It All. .....
Dec 7, 2005 2:12PM PST

I wil never again buy ANY Sony product of ANY kind at ANY price. Bad enough they started selling junk relabled as Sony to have cheaper available in Sony Stores (destroying a good brand name) but clearly being a ''paying customer''just means: Sucker Them Some More! Angry

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Shame on Sony
Dec 8, 2005 4:23AM PST

No, they have lost the trust....the only thing these
"companies" understand is getting hit where it hurts..in the pocket...stop buying their stuff...I have.

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Reply to The other Sony copy protection called SUNNCOMM
Dec 12, 2005 12:27AM PST

This rankles me on so many levels (Music listener, musician, Internet Security Pro, et. al.). So now we've got two issues. At this point I don't even trust what's imbedded into their hardware. I've removed all sony products from my system and am recommending to my friends not to use their products until I see some level of integrity in this company. If I can, I'll buy their music off on of the lgit sites, but I'm not buying their CD's