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The noose gets tighter

May 20, 2019 5:38PM PDT

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RE:the fun will begin
May 20, 2019 7:32PM PDT

The fun has begun on more than one front?

TheRUMP is railing about FOX News choice of guests

Hard to believe that @FoxNews is wasting airtime on Mayor Pete, as Chris Wallace likes to call him. Fox is moving more and more to the losing (wrong) side in covering the Dems. They got dumped from the Democrats boring debates, and they just want in.

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The Don is upset
May 20, 2019 8:02PM PDT

Because his personal news channel gave air time to someone other than himself or one of his allies.

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It can hardly be 'fun'
May 21, 2019 5:31AM PDT

he Dems since the records they want are all from a ten year period of time that ends nearly ten years ago themselves.....and since Trump himself disclosed on public tv as Apprentice began that he had been billions in debt during that period of time...AND Trump talks about it publicly in his book "The Art of the Comeback". How much of what they learn, IF they gets those tax records since they are wanting records of a private citizen long before he ran for political office and will probably be denied access by appeals, do they think will come as a surprise to the whole world and was told to that world by Trump himself?

I think the ONLY surprise, that even the liberal media will be forced to report on, is the huge amount of evidence coming out daily against the BO administration about how not only did THEY try to influence an election but used PAID foreign agents to do it. THAT's the noose that's getting tighter...……..

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Where to begin?
May 21, 2019 5:58AM PDT
was told to that world by Trump himself?

BUT NOT while HE was in debt?

Trump himself disclosed on public tv as Apprentice began that he had been billions in debt during that period of time.

AFTER the fact?

since they are wanting records of a private citizen long before he ran for political office

Long before? Records for the 6 year period from 2017 to 2011 is 'long before"?

Didn't the campaigning begin in 2017?

Long before HE ran for office (and you claim they would show nothing?) Then explain WHY he won't release them. What does HE know that YOU don't?
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From what I'VE read
May 21, 2019 9:48AM PDT

the financial records, including tax forms, are for the ten year period of time that ENDS in 2011....If you have something showing differently, post it.

And the fact that he was billions in debt that he stated publicly about and disclosed in his book published in 1997... https://www.bing.com/search?q=the+art+of+the+comback+publish+date&form=EDGNTT&qs=PF&cvid=ec53e4f825404ac49d82ae3ecb2946a9&refig=97de8fe7fc3e4d25b83a58e8328fd280&cc=US&setlang=en-US&plvar=0&PC=HCTS …. was also very publicly reported by media everywhere WHILE he was in debt, so your statement is FAKE NEWS.

As a PRIVATE citizen he has NO obligation to reveal his taxes to ANYONE just because they demand to see them. IF the IRS had issues with his taxes years ago, they would have done something about it at that time and that also would have become pretty public news....and they didn't. Nadler is again using crap to try and smear Trump with news that was ALREADY news long ago, and it will be denied by a higher court.

As others here during BO's election were fond of saying.....Trump won the election; GET OVER IT. You and the liberal media can't rewrite history just because you don't like the results.

He's done NOTHING illegal and fishing expeditions investigating a PERSON instead of a CRIME is also against the laws of this country and will only backfire.

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RE:they would have done something about it at that time and
May 21, 2019 10:48AM PDT
they would have done something about it at that time and that also would have become pretty public news..

HOW? DJT would have shown the world on his tax returns that he refuses to show?

DJT would have been on the world stage telling everyone?

On April 3, Neal requested Trump's individual returns as well as those for several of his business entities for the years 2013 through 2018. In response to Mnuchin's letter, Neal said in a statement that he would "consult with counsel and determine the appropriate response."

are for the ten year period of time that ENDS in 2011....If you have something showing differently, post it.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/trump-tax-returns-treasury-mnuchin-congress

And

https://www.axios.com/mnuchin-rejects-subpoena-trumps-tax-returns-3034ea82-b37b-4ddf-b490-cc67df7a2bd1.html

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin rejected a subpoena on Friday from House Democrats demanding President Trump's personal and business tax returns from 2013 to 2018, action that will likely result in a federal court battle, the Washington Post reports.
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Are you just playing stupid?
May 21, 2019 2:56PM PDT

they would have done something about it at that time and that also would have become pretty public news..

HOW? DJT would have shown the world on his tax returns that he refuses to show?"

The IRS would have taken him to court and THAT would have been news reported by the media. He wouldn't have to show his returns to anybody and still doesn't have to.

It started off with Nadler wanting the returns I mentioned...now it's evolved into something more, and no matter what, Congress has NO right to demand them when they can't claim a crime that would require that scrutiny. They are only looking to be able to announce that they GOT them because he never disclosed them during his campaign and the people didn't CARE and voted for him anyhow. The complete financial records they SHOULD be interested belong to the Clinton Foundation and you can bet real money that Huber is investigating them.

Nadler won't get Trump's personal OR business tax returns because he has no business demanding them for a fishing expedition into a PERSON, especially when that person was a PRIVATE CIVILIAN during 2013, 2014, 2015, and most of 2016. He's pipe dreaming...….for media coverage for his base.

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Speaking of "playing stupid"
May 21, 2019 7:42PM PDT

YOUR words/claim....the financial records, including tax forms, are for the ten year period of time that ENDS in 2011

The FACTS......On April 3, Neal requested Trump's individual returns as well as those for several of his business entities for the years 2013 through 2018.

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See my reply to this
May 22, 2019 3:26AM PDT

further along.....and why they won't get them.

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the reason Nadler wants them...
May 22, 2019 8:40PM PDT

...is actually other than what's reported. He was humiliated in NY by Trump during those years and he wants payback against Trump, and hoping he can fish something from them that involved a project that Trump was doing at the time, and how Trump did an end around run Nadler then and got his job done anyway, which then was deeply embarrassing to Nadler. This is a personal matter with Nadler, but he's hiding that.

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RE:Trump did an end around run Nadler
May 23, 2019 2:59AM PDT
Trump did an end around run Nadler then and got his job done anyway,

Got 'er done?

While Trump’s development was never built as he envisioned it, he did manage to build a number of residential buildings on the parcel, though he sold the property in 2005 with much of it still under construction amid delays and opposition.

Following Trump’s election in 2016, residents of the apartment complex voted to remove his name from the building

Now there's a slap in the face of DJT...taking HIS name off of a building...HE wouldn't hold a grudge for that.
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He sold it
May 23, 2019 4:11AM PDT

Not surprising at some point his name was removed. He probably doesn't care. There's not a railroad yard named Nadler there either.

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RE: He probably doesn't care.
May 23, 2019 4:19AM PDT

Remove HIS name from a building?

Doesn't care?

An example of HIS vanity

It’s not easy to pry the Trump name off a building, even when its residents want the president’s moniker removed.

Nearly 70% of condominium owners in Trump Place voted to remove the giant metal letters from the Manhattan building’s east and west facades, the condo board informed residents in an email Oct. 17 obtained by the Washington Post. The vote took place over a few weeks recently, and the email tabulated the results.

This vote didn’t come easy. When the condo board surveyed owners in early 2017 about removing the name, the Trump Organization told board members it would sue to prevent it. The company maintained that a 2000 licensing deal for Trump’s name—for $1—prohibited the signs from ever coming down.

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They could rename it
May 23, 2019 4:40AM PDT

"High Card" since it wouldn't be a "Trump card" like in Bridge.

Post was last edited on May 23, 2019 4:44 AM PDT

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DJT IS a "CARD"
May 23, 2019 4:55AM PDT

card......a distinct personality of an individual regarded as a persisting entity

Sometimes I wonder if HE is playing with a full deck.

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The only ones missing cards
May 23, 2019 9:35AM PDT

in their deck are the Dems and liberal media. They're playing 'go fish' while Trump is playing 'war' with them all....and they get PO'd when they 'ask' for cards from him that ends up with him laughing in their faces because it's the wrong game.

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There's a garden tool named after moi.
May 23, 2019 4:28PM PDT

The hour of moi's birth was 10:10 AM. Look at a clock or watch ad in the paper when you get the chance.

Nya nya nya!

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RE: fishing expeditions
May 21, 2019 10:53AM PDT

when you hang out with "fish" that CIA and FBI are following sometimes YOU get caught in the "net".

They weren't "spying/following" YOU, but there ya' go....

The author of your own misfortune.

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That isn't what happened....
May 21, 2019 3:20PM PDT

They were spying on Trump and illegally leaking information right from the beginning......remember those two phone conversations with Mexico and Australia that were leaked a week into his Presidency? (Jan 27..Mexico and Jan 28..Australia) WAPO got the transcripts and it was Feb 5, 2017 when Trump was interviewed about it.

Everything BO's administration and leftover underlings did from day one was to undermine and/or embarrass a duly elected President and BO gave permission to all of 'his' agencies as he walked out the door to easily 'share' information between themselves as a roadmap to do it...and Mueller followed the same pattern in his second half of his report. Although he was legally BOUND to indict/charge or not, he choose instead to give a roadmap to Congress for 'impeachment' and left the decision to Barr.

Do you remember how Comey was criticized by the Dems for his July 2016 televised 'speech' listing ALL of the HILL's REAL crimes and then let her off the hook (by usurping the AG's role of making the decision to indict/charge her or not) and made his ILLEGAL decision to let her off? They claimed he ruined her election chances, especially after he REOPENED the case after the Weiner laptop situation, and wanted him fired for it. Now they've turned Comey into a 'hero' after Trump gave them what they all wanted and fired him.

You can't have your cake and eat it, too.....but they are trying.

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RE:You can't have your cake and eat it, too
May 21, 2019 7:45PM PDT

I don't know how it is in your house....but in MY house if I don't have any cake, I can't eat any cake.

I'm not going next door and eat their cake....

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Where you live, have some...
May 22, 2019 8:53PM PDT

....cod with swallop gravy on it.

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Trying to impress me with your knowledge of where I live?
May 23, 2019 4:25AM PDT

Epic Fail.

I DID see A few cod about 40 years ago.

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Over fished?
May 23, 2019 4:43AM PDT

Our "Mainiacs" have the same problem.

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Reminds me of teaching elementary school
May 23, 2019 4:40PM PDT

around Thanksgiving. Had a First Nations kid who was a problem.
I told the class the Pilgrims were on/near the Grand Banks, (then) one of the best grounds in the world. Couldn't catch cold, never mind cod. (Natives caught so many they used 'em for fertilizer, per the famous story.) They taught the Whites to survive. Asked, 'If we were Pilgrims, how would we get food?'
'Dunno.'
'We'd have to ask _____ for help.'
Kid was OK after that.

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Looking through my references for a reply.
May 23, 2019 4:33PM PDT

Found one in my Farlex dictionary app.
"... folderol, trumpery ...; a worthless message."
But it's British, not Scotch or Canadian.

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If the Don has nothing to hide
May 21, 2019 6:06AM PDT

Then give the dems the records.
He won't do that because he knows he's been a crook.
His book title is "The art of the conman/liar".

Who's BO?

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Nothing to hide
May 21, 2019 9:55AM PDT

doesn't mean that even YOU would enjoy being put under scrutiny going back twenty years just because someone who doesn't like you demands it without justification...and by justification, I'm talking about having SOME proof you committed a crime of SOME type that merits that fishing expedition. As stated before, even CONGRESS can't investigate a PERSON looking for a crime....our laws are in place for a reason, and you need a CRIME to investigate and then look at the PERSON that connects to it, not the other way around. Just because they found a judge (Dems are notorious for judge shopping, but nearly always lose on appeal) that agrees with them, doesn't mean it will stand up.

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The first court agreed with the dems
May 21, 2019 11:23AM PDT

Now it moves on to the 2nd court.

Sit back and watch the action.

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Get comfy...it's gonna be a long game
May 21, 2019 3:21PM PDT

and he'll win again...…….

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Win
May 21, 2019 3:37PM PDT

If that's what the courts decide so be it.