The meaning of classified?

May 23, 2018 12:34PM PDT

Republicans have been granted access to "classified documents" which they have been claiming will prove what they have been saying about a witch hunt.

Since the documents are "classified" and the contents cannot be released to the public(and people that weren't granted access/Democrats)...will the Republicans and TheRUMP be obligated to shut their cakehole about SPYs?

Exactly what do the Republicans think they will gain by reading "classified" documents...They can't disclose the contents...IF they shut up about SPYs then the public will know that there WAS NO "SPY"....

And IF there was a "SPY", The Republicans can't talk about say they were right, because they discovered there was a SPY because of reading a classified document of which they cannot disclose the contents.

All kind of pointless isn't it? Knowing classified info?

....unless you use it to stop from putting more egg on YOUR face.

Why TheRUMP has that look/orange face?

Post was last edited on May 23, 2018 1:19 PM PDT

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The meaning of classified?
May 24, 2018 3:10AM PDT

Synonyms of classify. assort, break down, categorize, class, codify, compartment, compartmentalize, digest, distinguish, distribute, grade, group, peg, place, range, rank, relegate, separate, sort, type. Words Related to classify.

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Good reminder.
May 24, 2018 3:51PM PDT

So s/b "classified as Secret" or whatever.
I doubt many of us will bother with the longer version; the news folks don't. Happy

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BTW you're too sensible.
May 24, 2018 3:51PM PDT

Get outta here!

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The Dems weren't invited
May 24, 2018 3:24AM PDT

because they didn't bother to ask to see them. You reap what you sow?

As for the term SPY....The guy's name has already come out, Clapper et al have already admitted publicly there was at least one....even to the point of excusing it as trying to 'protect' Trump but never bothered to TELL HIM. Comey referred to the SPY as "human resource".

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RE:Comey referred to the SPY as "human resource".
May 24, 2018 4:01AM PDT

and TheRUMP referred to the "human resource" as a "SPY". TheRUMP be paranoid?

RE: but never bothered to TELL HIM

Not telling him, is the problem?

Being a good American, no one should have to tell him anything....

IF there was Russian involvement, HE would have reported it to FBI, CIA himself...

IF there was NO Russian involvement....TheRUMP has nothing to report, to fear or complain about...

TheRUMP be making a lot of noise for an person with nothing to hide...He doth protest too much.

Mueller hasn't said diddly about any investigation....TheRUMP is making ALL the noise...

RE:Clapper et al have already admitted publicly there was at least one

Trump Misquotes Clapper on FBI ‘Spy’

Behar: … So, I ask you, was the FBI spying on Trump’s campaign?

Clapper: No, they were not. They were spying on, a term I don’t particularly like, but on what the Russians were doing.

Rod Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general overseeing the Russia investigation, said that “if anyone did infiltrate or surveil participants in a presidential campaign for inappropriate purposes, we need to know about it and take appropriate action.”

Even Rod wouldn't say "SPY"... people should focus more on inappropriate purposes than "informant" or SPY....

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Boy, have you guys learned how to spin
May 24, 2018 5:55AM PDT

well from the liberal Dems.

a person who secretly collects and reports information on the activities, movements, and plans of an enemy or competitor.
synonyms: secret agent · undercover agent · enemy agent · foreign agent · secret service agent · intelligence agent · double agent · counterspy · industrial spy · fifth columnist · mole · plant · scout · control · handler · spook · snooper · intelligencer · beagle
work for a government or other organization by secretly collecting information about enemies or competitors.
"he agreed to spy for the West"
synonyms: espionage · undercover work · cloak-and-dagger activities · surveillance · reconnaissance · intelligence · eavesdropping · cyberespionage · infiltration · counterespionage · counterintelligence · ninjutsu · bugging · wiretapping · recon · be a spy · be engaged in spying · gather intelligence · work for the secret service · snoop

Confidential Human Resource....informant.....BOTH are 'spies'.....and ALL of those terms is EXACTLY what the FBI and the CIA DO at their agencies. They are in the BUSINESS of using spies.....they are NOT allowed to do it against a political party that they don't agree with and that's what they DID. The even went to the extreme of using FOREIGN countries to try and entrap them and THAT action REQUIRED approval from the BO State Department (Kerry) AND BO himself.

You may not like what Trump has to say about all of this corruption that went on, but BO and his thugs have done it.....AND PAID to have it done. AND got really sloppy in the attempt to cover it up before he left office.

IF Clapper WAS really concerned with watching the Russians and what they may have been attempting to do with regard to the Trump campaign, they were obligated to TELL him just as they TOLD the RNC about the possible hacking and were able to check their servers (which the DNC refused to let be seen).

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RE:they are NOT allowed to do it against a political party
May 24, 2018 7:13AM PDT

Against a political party?

It's difficult to be in an area where you are observing the actions of ONE party (Russians) and not also observe the actions of the other party (Don Jr) in the room...Watching the interactions of the Russian WITHOUT observing the interaction with the other party?....

Interaction also known as collusion?

Talk about wearing blinders. Hearing only ONE side of a conversation...

like I've already said...

Being a good American, no one should have to tell him anything....

IF there was Russian involvement, HE would/SHOULD have reported it to FBI, CIA himself...

IF there was NO Russian involvement....TheRUMP has nothing to report, to fear or complain about..

Wouldn't it be something IF the informant was some individual that was against the Tea Party?

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Since you decided to bring up Don Jr
May 24, 2018 10:22AM PDT

and the 'meeting' he had with the Russian attorney, can YOU explain WHY NOBODY (not the FBI, CIA, Congressional hearings, or Mueller) have EVER brought HER in for questioning? Because they KNOW there was NOTHING to that meeting??????

WHY has NOBODY questioned of the informants/spies other than the ONE we know of that has been PAID and has been around as a PAID informant since 1986 and the KEY people regarding the 'dossier'? And WHY wouldn't the DOJ allow Congress, which has authority OVER the DOJ SEE his 'proof' documentation?

Keep shooting/ fishing in that empty barrel you keep referring to, JP.....You're out of ammo.

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(NT) Hillary WHO?
May 24, 2018 11:29AM PDT
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Are you THAT confused, JP
May 24, 2018 12:36PM PDT

that you still have the LIAR on your mind and didn't realize I was referring to the female Russian attorney? Poor you.......

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May 24, 2018 1:15PM PDT

I thought there was only ONE woman in your life....

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RE:PAID informant
May 24, 2018 11:40AM PDT

Do you consider someone that has pleaded guilty to lying to investigators and is cooperating in the Russia probe a PAID informant?

Plead guilty?...tell us what you know/heard/saw and we'll put in a good word for you when sentencing comes....Consider that your "pay".

you are NOT a paid informant/ are someone that got caught doing something you shouldn't have been doing and now you are suffering the consequences of your own actions....Saving your own *** and throwing someone else (the "brains" behind the plan) to the wolves....

Instead of getting an atta' boy from the boss, you throw him to the wolves....

Don't cry...he'll give you a pardon....

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Most of those 'guilty' pleas
May 24, 2018 12:40PM PDT

have come from people that the FBI bankrupted and threatened family members with prosecution.....and as far as I know from recent reporting, they are all appealing/fighting those 'pleas' as more information about the FBI, CIA, AND MUELLER'S corruption in the Trump 'investigation' has been coming out. You keep talking about 'pardons' from Trump the same way you were vigorously talking about Trump 'collusion' and 'obstruction of justice' a short time ago. I noticed you have shut your cake hole about those things.

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RE:Most of those 'guilty' pleas
May 24, 2018 1:28PM PDT

Most of those 'guilty' pleas have come from people that the FBI bankrupted and threatened family members with prosecution

"Most"...BUT NOT ALL?

So, tell everyone which ones YOU consider were "GUILTY" ?

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NONE were guilty of
May 25, 2018 5:18AM PDT

collusion or anything else mandated for THIS investigation, and in the case of Flynn, BOTH FBI agents who interviewed him have stated, including their superior COMEY publicly, that THEY didn't believe he lied to them. Mueller decided otherwise and charged him. Papadopolis (sp) pled to talking with the Ambassador to Australia about someone who approached HIM....AND that Ambassador HAD to get authority to speak to Mueller by the State Department and BO himself before he could which means both Kerry and BO KNEW way back then that Trump's team was under surveillance secretly by the FBI.

Witch hunt doesn't even begin to describe the corruption by the BO administration with regard to actually trying to affect a presidential election......

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RE:NONE were guilty of
May 25, 2018 7:19AM PDT

NONE were guilty of collusion or anything else mandated for THIS investigation,

You mean they weren't FOUND guilty of collusion or anything else mandated for THIS investigation,

Only because they weren't charged with those crimes....YET?

They LIED about something( because they pled guilty)...we all know how you despise LIARs....

IF I was charged with something I didn't do...I would NOT plead guilty because I didn't have the money to hire a lawyer. I would at least plead NOT GUILTY and defend myself and have a trial....get the info out to the public....get to ask the questions I want answered.....

How bout YOU...would YOU stand up for YOUR rights?

Pretend you're in SE and rebutting MY arguments?

I bring the defend yourself....try and stay focused on the charges and don't bring up Hillary & BO, the Judge will throw you out of court......

The Moderator will be like the Judge......

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Good grief, JP
May 25, 2018 1:38PM PDT

They haven't been charged because there is NOTHING to charge them WITH.....Flynn was found to be NOT lying by the agents who actually interviewed him. Mueller decided on his OWN that he did....but he didn't charge the two agents OR COMEY for lying when they all said he didn't.

And ALL of those Americans charged or who have pled and ONE of the companies that Mueller charged ARE fighting back now that more evidence showing Mueller was charging them with false claims has surfaced. And, yes, JP....IF you were innocent of a crime you were being charged with AND your personal wealth was destroyed trying to prove your innocence AND your own FAMILY was being threatened with BS charges if you DIDN'T plead guilty, I think you would do it in a heartbeat because you no longer had the means to fight back with.

Have you noticed at all that their whole argument for the spying and FISA warrants were built around Carter Page and yet he has NEVER been charged with ANYTHING? Why is that, do you think?

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RE:They haven't been charged because
May 25, 2018 7:19PM PDT
They haven't been charged because there is NOTHING to charge them WITH

No need to charge anyone...they tried laying a charge but the morons plead GUILTY Before the charges could be laid....

You're bouncing between "they haven't been charged" AND "NONE were guilty".

And I've been saying they've "Pled GUILTY"

You say they weren't GUILTY....I've said they've "Pleaded GUILTY".

I can see it YOUR courtroom .....

How do you plead?

I plead Guilty as NOT charged Your Honour....

Flynn pleads guilty
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And when he's found NOTguilty
May 26, 2018 4:17AM PDT

like OTHERS have been by new judges/courts who were prosecuted by Mueller and Comey in the past (two of those exonerated had already DIED in prison waiting), will you come back and admit you were wrong......that even NOT guilty people will plead to save their family from people like these who have no problem destroying you in order to win at all costs?

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RE:that even NOT guilty people will plead to save their fami
May 26, 2018 6:01AM PDT
that even NOT guilty people will plead to save their family from people like these who have no problem destroying you

Flynn's words

In a statement, Flynn said he acknowledged that his actions "were wrong, and, through my faith in God, I am working to set things right.

"My guilty plea and agreement to cooperate with the Special Counsel's Office reflect a decision I made in the best interests of my family and of our country. I accept full responsibility for my actions," he said.

Sure Flynn ONLY pled GUILTY to lying to the FBI...But what did he lie about?

The charging document states that Flynn made a false statement to the FBI when he stated that in December 2016 he did not ask Kislyak "to refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day; and Flynn did not recall the Russian ambassador subsequently telling him that Russia had chosen to moderate its response to those sanctions as a result of his request."

He LIED about communications with the Russians...That's what got the FBI upset....Aren't YOU upset?...behind the scenes communications with "the enemy" , the Russians?

HE should be thankful the FBI let him off as easily as they did....Of course it ain't over til the fat lady sings....

If other prosecutors outside the special counsel's office, such as US attorneys or state law enforcement, wanted to charge Flynn with alleged crimes, they still could, and he's not protected if he lies to investigators again in the future or breaks the terms of his plea agreement..
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The whole POINT of this Flynn 'charge'
May 26, 2018 7:51AM PDT

is in YOUR statement..."Sure Flynn ONLY pled GUILTY to lying to the FBI..."

BOTH FBI agents who questioned him at Flynn's office on the pretext of having a 'conversation' with him and he had NO attorney present because he took them at their word, publicly stated, as DID COMEY, that HE DIDN'T LIE TO THEM. It was MUELLER, NOT the FBI, who decided otherwise and charged him to the point of bankruptcy while he fought Mueller and endured the threats from Mueller that he would destroy Flynn's family in the process that Flynn pled.

You have a hard time distinguishing between MUELLER and the FBI, JP. The FBI and Comey WERE being honest about Flynn...Mueller believes he is MANDATED to go after PEOPLE and THEN find a CRIME rather than investigate a REAL crime and connect it to a person which is how REAL law enforcement works in this country. Mueller has never had a reputation for doing that, but when everybody was commenting in the beginning about what a great prosecutor he used to be, NOBODY actually checked his background or they would have known immediately THIS guy was NOT going to be fair at all.

Wait for the Horowitz report next week and you'll find out how INVESTIGATORS REALLY work. In THIS country a prosecutor has to PROVE your GUILT....not have a defendant be required to prove his/her INNOCENCE. Mueller has yet to PROVE ANTHING against ANYBODY....instead he has strong armed people into not having to actually go to court where Mueller actually runs the risk of having an honest judge toss his cases as bull....

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You're making lots of excuses
May 26, 2018 8:01AM PDT

in defense of a person that admits they committed a crime...

THEY can do it...what's YOUR problem?

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RE:will you come back and admit you were wrong
May 26, 2018 6:09AM PDT

Will YOU stop saying Hillary is GUILTY of something when SHE has never pled GUILTY OR been found GUILTY?

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(NT) YET.........
May 26, 2018 10:29AM PDT
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Don't you mean
May 26, 2018 10:36AM PDT

NYET..... Nyet is defined as Russian for no

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Actually, the LIAR and her husband
May 26, 2018 4:29PM PDT

were UNABLE to say NYET to the Russians because they were too busy counting the cash they were getting from them.....

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So you still don't want to talk about Flynn
May 26, 2018 7:06PM PDT

admitting HE was GUILTY, AS CHARGED....

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PLED,,not FOUND...there IS a difference
May 27, 2018 2:36AM PDT

and I've already told you the REASONS he pled....but YOU never answered as to whether YOU would in order to save your family from thugs.

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RE:I've already told you the REASONS he pled.
May 27, 2018 3:46AM PDT

That's right you have told me REASONS you say he pled....

Every REASON you could think of...EXCEPT the FACT that he PLEAD GUILTY....

He wasn't being questioned...he was having a conversation.....

He couldn't afford to plead not guilty....

He didn't want to embarrass his family.....

RE:PLED,,not FOUND...there IS a difference

I hope you're not suggesting he PLED guilty and the Judge FOUND him NOT Guilty.

Found NOT guilty and put conditions on a person that is found NOT Guilty?

Are you suggesting the Judge didn't JUDGE the case?

When a person enters a guilty plea...the response from the Judge/trier of facts is...having entered a Guilty plea I FIND YOU GUILTY.and sentence you to bla, bla, bla...whatever conditions...

Flynn Pled...the Judge FOUND...and YOU deny.....I goes on....

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Quite a few people
May 28, 2018 3:20AM PDT

prosecuted by Mueller and Comey in the past have had their guilty findings reversed (too late for two who died in jail waiting) by OTHER judges who FOUND that Mueller and Comey used unethical practices to prosecute, JP. Ten THOUSAND lost their jobs when they totally destroyed an entire company and THAT was reversed, too late again, as well.

These cases will eventually be reversed as well for the same reasons and I'll be waiting for your admission that this witch hunt was a search for crime, ANY crime, in order for Mueller to justify his taking millions of tax payer dollars for his own personal legacy.

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