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The mark of the man

Mar 4, 2004 10:13AM PST

Picked this up on the www today. It was signed, and I have deleted the name because I don't know it the story is true or false. I think it plausible.

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I would like to add my two cents about my John Kerry experience. During my career as an Air Force pilot, I spent two years flying a small twin-engine prop plane around the Pacific from my base in Okinawa, Japan. On one trip we had to fly Senator Kerry, his congressional aide, and a Navy Captain (Vietnam, A-4 fighter pilot) who was also in Kerry's party to various locations in Vietnam and Cambodia as part of the MIA/POW talks.

When I met him, he was wearing a shirt with a picture of his sailboat on it. I told him I had a small 27 sailboat in Okinawa, he remarked 'Oh I never sail on anything less than 135 feet'.

When we first flew him into Phnom Penh, he went to the back of the airplane and grabbed the pizza that was put aside for the plane crew and passed it around to his staff.

He was never offered the pizza because they were supposed to have lunch with the Cambodian government once we landed. The pizza would have been our only meal that day.

Then when we picked him up in Cambodia, he was an hour late getting to the airport. We could not start the engines and therefore the air conditioning until he arrived. Phnom Penh at that time was over 100 degrees with
95% humidity and we were basically sitting in a greenhouse behind the cockpit windows. When he finally did arrive, we were wringing out our clothes from the perspiration. He walks out of the air conditioned car, into the airplane and asks us 'Could you guys get the air conditioning running, I'm a little warm." The other pilot had to physically restrain me from going back there.

Then we took him into Noi Bai airfield in Hanoi. After we picked him up the next day (he stayed the night in Vietnam, we stayed in Bangkok) we taxied out, ran up the engines for takeoff, and noticed that our prop rpm was vibrating all over the place. We taxied off to the side to look at it, as there was a good possibility that there was an engine malfunction and the engine may fail if we took off with it.

Well, Mr. Senator sticks his head up in the cockpit and says 'this plane WILL take - off, I have a press conference in Bangkok in three hours!"(Maybe this is an indication of how he will run the FAA).

We ran the engines again, and did not have the same problem, so we took off and made it back. During the flight, he told everyone how he had taken a Cessna (a small General aviation plane) up with a fighter pilot, and the fighter pilot remarked that Kerry was one of the best pilots he had ever seen. I don't know about other pilots out there, but it's hard to imagine a little, single-engine prop plane pilot being able to show the 'right stuff'.

After Kerry left the plane, the Navy Captain came up to us, apologized and said basically that he knows Kerry is a jerk and that we should be glad we don't have to deal with him every day....
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Or will we?

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I'd be skeptical ...
Mar 4, 2004 10:50AM PST
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Just being curious, Bill....
Mar 4, 2004 10:40PM PST

Just being curious, Bill, I did a "quickie" check on that name. It appears that there was a USAF pilot of that name.
The question of is that him or not might come up if that letter gets political "traction".
If one side finds something that discredits him, they would yell it from the roof tops. If they don't, they probably will be silent about it.
The possible "wild card in the deck" is the possibility that someone else who was a member of those plane crews might surface and confirm or deny (who knows which) those details. Again, both sides would react in a different manner in that case, depending on what the "wild card" said.
All we can do is wait and see what happens if it gets what I called "political traction".

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Re: Dumpster diving... nt
Mar 4, 2004 9:33PM PST

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Were SpongeBob and Tinkie-Winkie on that trip, too? -nt
Mar 4, 2004 10:40PM PST

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No, Dan, but....
Mar 4, 2004 10:48PM PST

No, Dan, but at least a co-pilot. Let's see if another crewmember surfaces, and if so, whether they confirm or deny that account.