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(NT) om-o

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Heard of his passing last night

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On one hand, he was considered a fraud by the Beatles after they spent some time at his compound in 1968 -- he was rumored to have made advances at some of the women there, and John Lennon in particular thought he had too much money for a true mystic. He wrote the song "Sexy Sadie" as an expression of his disillusionment.

On the other, through his association with the Beatles he was able to introduce transcendental meditation to the western world, and proved to be a big influence on our culture.

As a historical figure in the world of Beatledom, I am saddened by his passing.

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a big influence on our culture.?

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I don't think so.

Just another scam.

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a scam?

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2 generations and countless millions might not agree with you...

when the 'choices' of getting high were JB, MJ or TM, a LOT of people went the TM route


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Lots of people are fooled by lots of things....

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As old PT knew well.

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Some of us

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didn't go with any of the choices to "get high" Some of us worked and took care of families.

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(NT) congratulations

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(NT) LOL

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Just because he was not an influence on you personally....

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...does not negate what I said, which I stand by. He would not have had nearly the influence he had if it weren't for his association with the Beatles. He understood that at the outset, and used their interest in TM to promote himself.

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would you say he was...

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...a "spiritual leech"? Or an average carnal one?

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He was an opportunist, no question

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Whether his spiritual beliefs were genuine I do not know. I suppose in this regard he may not have been much different than other spiritual figures who engaged in well-publicized less-than-spiritual behavior.

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It has nothing to do with his influence on me.

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I think his impact on our culture is almost non-existent. A weird oddity, no more. But if you wish to believe differently, fine.

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Some may confuse him with Rajneesh

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This below is by no means a complete account of his life nor people's reactions to the person. I was on Crete when this guy came there after being kicked out of the USA. He tried to start some new commune there but once the Cretans got wind of what he was up to, he was run out of town, literally. It was more along the lines of "leave today, now, or tomorrow we...."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osho

He was often called the "sex guru" after some speeches in the late 1960s on sexuality. These were later compiled under the title From Sex to Superconsciousness. According to him, "For Tantra everything is holy, nothing is unholy",[92] and all repressive sexual morality was self-defeating, since one could not transcend sex without experiencing it thoroughly and consciously. In 1985, he told the Bombay Illustrated Weekly,
? I have never been a celibate. If people believe so, that is their foolishness. I have always loved women ? and perhaps more women than anybody else. You can see my beard: it has become grey so quickly because I have lived so intensely that I have compressed almost two hundred years into fifty.[93] ?

Osho said he loved to disturb people ? only by disturbing them could he make them think.[94] Accordingly, his discourses were peppered with offensive jokes[95] and outrageous statements lampooning key figures of established religions such as Hinduism, Jainism or Christianity. Concerning the virgin birth, for example, he said that Jesus was clearly a *******, since he was not Joseph's biological son.[4] Osho said that the only thing he was serious about in his discourses were the jokes ? they were the main thing, and everything else was spiritual gossip...(much more at page)

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