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The irony of Ian's new word

Feb 5, 2004 10:19PM PST

I can't find the posts, so I am starting a new thread, but in reference to the vaginas Ian is apparently offended by in porn spam, he has now on multiple occasions changed the term to pudendas.

I initially thought this was probably a version of **** and other such references that are generally considered derogatory slang terms. So I decided to look it up as this was a new word to me. Here is what I found:

Pudenda, n. pl. [L., from pudendus that of which one ought to be ashamed, fr. pudere to be ashamed.] (Anat.)

The external organs of generation.


So it's not a synonym for ******, although it would include the external parts of the ******. But what I find ironic is the derivation of this word. Those of us who found fault with Ms. Jackson's display have been told we ought to just lighten up as regards "God's creation" and that we are just too puritanical or blue nosey about nudity. We've been regaled by Ian about all matters sexual including how kids are sexual from birth and there is apparently no difference between someone touching themselves in any way and in a sexual way. Yet he objects to spam that portrays what he now refers to as pudendas. The irony is the derivation of the word as pertains to parts one ought to be ashamed of.

So Ian, should I be ashamed of my pudenda? Why are you offended by displays of pudenda but not of breasts? Are they not both God's creation? Are they not both displayed on the nude body? Your hypocrisy on this issue is astounding!

Evie Happy

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Re:oh boy
Feb 5, 2004 10:33PM PST

what would a Puritan with a speech impediment call a naked woman with a 58" bust?


*running for the hills as i click enter*

nnnnnnnnnnpudennnnnnnndassssss

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I hope you enjoyed your researching,
Feb 5, 2004 10:47PM PST

quite an interesting post.

Pudenda are the p!ss flaps when I grew up. I didn't research latest meanings, I just used a word I correctly assumed the stupid ***** replacer wouldn't complain about.

Its good to see consistency, you having ignored the content of my posts to pick on a word so you may denigrate the posts.

Why am I unsurprised?

Glenda will fly in now to defend the Evie from the southern hemisphere monster.

Have fun.

Ian

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Geez
Feb 5, 2004 10:56PM PST
Glenda will fly in now to defend the Evie from the southern hemisphere monster

Give it a rest Ian. She replied to one of my posts to you. Neither of us need the other to defend from anything, unless you now acknowledge most of your posts are attacks?

The filter doesn't bleep ******, so my observation started when you decided to introduce a new term.

I note you didn't answer my question. What is the difference to you between a nude breast and a nude ******? Are they not both God's beautiful creations?

Denigrate the posts? Well, you haven't answered the numerous and several replies about your aversion to vaginas. You denigrate anyone who is offended by something you didn't even see or apparently were unaware of the context (wasn't it you who didn't even know that the superbowl was football?) because they are parents and this was wholly inappropriate for their kids. Well, then you really do have some nerve there.
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Re:Geez
Feb 6, 2004 3:29AM PST

Hi, Evie.

>>The filter doesn't bleep ******<<
The old one did, so Ian probably just remembered that. Let's give this thread a rest, shall we? It's really just "did so," "did not" and doesn't add anything to rational discussion of issues.

-- Dave K.
Speakeasy Moderator
click here to email semods4@yahoo.com

The opinions expressed above are my own,
and do not necessarily reflect those of CNET!

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Re:Re:Geez
Feb 6, 2004 8:50PM PST

No Dave, the old one didn't bleep it out, and this one didn't when he used the word ****** several times before switching to pudendas. My point of the post was about the IRONY of that term -- referring to parts that one "ought to be ashamed of" ... as in parts that are better kept covered in public. The only reason I looked it up at all was the similarity to other slang words for the female sex organ begining with the letter p, and it didn't sound like an appropriate term to be throwing around. As it turns out, it is more appropriate than he knew.

Evie

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Re:I hope you enjoyed your researching,
Feb 5, 2004 11:48PM PST

Ian, I love most of what you write but occasionally you do throw in words that are not normally used in everyday conversation. And I like to think of the forum as just conversastion between friends. It's just not fun to have to go look up the meaning in order to appreciate your message. If you think I'm stupid and lazy for this opinion, you're probably right but I don't want to spend the time I have left to enjoy life trying to prove anything. I hope this is taken as a friendly tip between friends.

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I suspect Ian likes seeing both very much. He's just up in arms that his kids might
Feb 5, 2004 11:57PM PST

be exposed to the same material. Hmm, I wonder if he really thinks it might be harmful (porn that is). The usual rationale for looking at such material is that you are enjoying the beauty of God's creation.

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Yep, Kid..
Feb 6, 2004 12:37AM PST

I find it incongrous that one could rationalize the baring of JJs mammary as being in any way acceptable without knowing the context. And then complain about the porn spam whose context is understood by all.

Bo

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Ian, I don't see where Evie needs defending..........
Feb 6, 2004 2:43AM PST

care to point out where she was wrong or defenseless?
LOL
On the other hand just how many posts do you see from Evie or myself defending each other? We each say what we mean and don't need help, as we are both capable of defending ourselves.
Per you last post to me? Not friends anymore? Oh well!
Maybe I just woke up?

Glenda

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One thing Ian...
Feb 6, 2004 2:52AM PST

There is one thing that I think you have learned too during your time here: Some people do just about anything to taunt, inflame and to drag you down in the mud. Let them stay there themselves. You deserve better!

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I declared this thread closed -- all subsequent messages will be deleted. (NT)
Feb 6, 2004 12:34PM PST

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Re:I declared this thread closed?
Feb 6, 2004 1:46PM PST

you declared? as in 'past' of declare?

where and when did you do that?

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Re: I declared this thread closed!
Feb 7, 2004 12:19AM PST

Hi, Jonah.

I phrased it in the form of a request to be polite -- see the message just below this one.

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
click here to email semods4@yahoo.com

The opinions expressed above are my own,
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Re:ahhhhhhhhhhhh soooooo...ok, well before you officially close it down
Feb 7, 2004 1:27AM PST

let me add this....

it's been a long time since i opened a psychology text book, and i only have 2 kids, and my wife only worked 18 years with kids (from newborns up to 16-17 yr olds) and i must have have attended only a few tens of day/weekend/long weekend/week long camps/seminars/courses/lectures on child/young adult psychology.....

and in all that time dave, i have only had one person make me feel queezy/squeemish/yucky when they talked about their kids and/or kids in general!

and you want to give him free rein in SE?

you want to sit on the people who disagree with him?

and one more 'small' thing dave, to say that a 1-3 yr old masturbates is such a gross misuse of the word that it's not even funny!!

you want a nice easy definition of the word? "movement in, on or around parts of the body that causes sexual pleasure".... notice the use of the phrase 'sexual pleasure'...

now put ians words in front of a picture/thought of your daughter/neice (or the daughters/neices of SE members) and imagine saying to your wife "oh look honey, little susan is mastubating"....

give us a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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(NT) That about covers it !
Feb 7, 2004 1:31AM PST

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Re: irony of Ian's new word -- Let's end this thread here, please! (NT)
Feb 6, 2004 3:30AM PST

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