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Ya know, I remember those days, and I sure don't remember
any of those actions or attitudes VVBG
then, you don't remember it well :-) (NT)
That sounds really cool :)
It's ok Mary you can put that gun down
And Snopes says...
Because the exact magazine name did not ring a bell with me, I did a google search just on the magazine name and had several hits only to this exact article with the same date, May 13 1955. Some appeared to have a scanned image of the article, complete with an illustration.
Now that I think about it--if a magazine has "monthly" in its name, would it have a more precise date on the article? Not likely.
Here's what Snopes has to say:
I'm sure that in the mid fifties, many women's magazines spouted some of this kind of advice, I just don't buy this one.
Re:The good old days.... yea, right
While not endorsing the list (I like living too much for that, LOL), remember also that many if not most women didn't work outside the home then.
While that was plenty of work, it makes a difference. I will go so far as say that I'd expect a bit more from a wife that didn't work outside the home than one who did.
Although the list went way over the line Roger
It is an interesting observation that the divorce rate has increased quite considerably since women have been going out to work in larger numbers. I believe that this situation has put quite a strain on relationships, especially when men resent doing any house work.
Re:Although the list went way over the line Roger
You mean, of course, that 'some' men resent an type of housework.
Oh yeh Dan - only some men - but enough to cause problems :(
Doesn't include myself. I do washing up the dishes,
and push the vacuum around. Not to mention hanging up the washing, and cleaning the bath tub.
It wouldn't be fair to leave all the house work to the lady of the house when she hasn't got any more time than the partner.
Men who cause problems for their wives
are going to cause them whether or not the wife works or keeps a house running like a finely tuned machine or both. Jerks are just jerks.
Re:Although the list went way over the line Roger
I don't think women working has much to do with the divorce rate. I thin the two largest factors are that it's not as socially a stigma, and also that kids these days are used to being handed life on a silver platter, and tend to bail at the first hint of problems. Good relationships are hard work, and I think too many now believe in "and they lived happily ever after." I'm not saying that's not the end result of a good relationship/marriage -- just that the happy ending didn't just happen as a matter of course.
-- Dave K.
On the other hand.
Women are more able to divorce now because they do have an indepenent, although usually not sufficient, income.
If we were to compare the women of today to how they were fifty odd years ago, we would see a much more confident woman, and someone who will question her lot in life. She will no longer put up with all the bad experiences, generally speaking, and of course the divorse laws have shifted very much in her favour now.
You are absolutely right about the hard work required to make a marriage work, something some people are just not prepared to put into it.
Re:Re:Although the list went way over the line Roger
I'd agree about multiple causes.
Women working for an income does have a part though. As one of the other posts mentions, having independent income can make it easier to leave.
The social conditioning that you have to be married as a career for women has gone. And that may have as much to do with it as anything. Yes, the stigma of divorce being less is important, as well as the idea of instant gratification expectations.
But working makes it harder even for couples that try I think. Particularly when both, or even one sometimes, have careers they're interested in doing, not just jobs with paychecks. Spending lots of time apart, particularly in different types of work, can contribute to drifting apart of interest. Espcially when one or both spend a lot more than the 40 hour work week involved in work.
Unfortunately, as two income couples have become normal, it's also normal to live spending that entire income, so there's pressure on both to keep bringing the money in. With today's uncertainity in job security (and it's been getting worse for longer than some recognize) that can frazzle both parties nerves at work. They both bring that frustation home and often end up acting on it there.
Not blaming working women at all. Just noting that it helps contribute to stress at home as well as the man's job.
Re:The good old days.... yea, right ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!
when were we supposed to have time to do all this?? Before or after WE get off work?? After the kids are fed and bathed and put to bed? What 15 Minutes are left in the day to rest, freshen up and greet HIM with a smile and dinner??? LOL
In my house we all ate at the same time and usually it was something that took about 30 minutes to fix! Then the kids were bathed and put to bed and we had from about 8 to 10 pm to rest from the kids and the day together! And IF he had the nerve to stay out all night he would definetly NOT been met with understanding!!! LOL