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The gods of nature, fighting over "trophy hunter"

Oct 23, 2015 12:41PM PDT

What a cute little bird! I guess he couldn't take the time to set up a camera near the nest, actually do some time intensive real investigative work, which left it living?

"Finders, Keepers, Losers, Weepers! I got it! I got it!"

I guess if instead it was a tiny human with wings flying along, he'd have "bagged" it so he could show it off to his buds over beers, just to prove he'd actually seen one.

Look out Big Foot! A scientist might be near you.

http://www.cnet.com/news/controversy-after-scientist-finds-rare-bird-and-kills-it/

"Chris Filardi. He's the director of Pacific Programs at the American Museum of Natural History.

Last month, he was in the Solomon Islands with other researchers. They first heard, then espied the rare male moustached kingfisher.

Then, as the Dodo reports, the beautiful orange and blue bird was "collected as a specimen for additional study." This turns out to have been a slight euphemism for "killed for additional study."

Filardi wasn't universally popular for this decision. He took to Audubon to write: "Why I Killed A Rare Kingfisher So That I Could Study It And Become More Famous." Wait, no. His article was headlined: "Why I Collected a Moustached Kingfisher." (The comments section to this article is well worth a read.)"

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Didn't we learn that James Audubon
Oct 23, 2015 12:52PM PDT

killed birds so he could paint his pictures of them? That's about the only way to get them to pose, I guess. I was young when I heard that and it really disturbed me then. Some of those birds are now gone except for paintings. The bird world has many morphs of the same species. Even as they hop from island to island, subtle changes happen as they breed with whatever is available to them.

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true, but those weren't "rare"
Oct 23, 2015 3:10PM PDT

or threatened with possible extinction. Seems the only "evidence" they have of any population group is rumors from locals.

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I looked up the bird
Oct 23, 2015 5:05PM PDT

I read that the population is but a few hundred and dropping. The reason given is habitat loss and the introduction of predators. It didn't say what that predator was but the bird is a cavity nester which means it seeks holes in trees. I'll have to guess that the clearing of forested areas is the reason. Here in the US, we commonly cut down dead trees even if not in populated areas. These trees are condos for cavity nesting birds and particularly for owls and kestrels which help to control the populations of rats and mice. Conversationalists tell us to leave the dead trees alone.

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Correction maybe
Oct 23, 2015 5:11PM PDT

I've found conflicting reports on their nesting habits. One says they nest in tree cavities and the other in holes in the ground. I suppose it could be either or both. I also suspect the unnamed predator that was introduced wasn't there to kill the birds but some other nuisance critter. That's what happens when man tries to outwith nature.

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(NT) One of the biggest killers of birds is cats.
Oct 25, 2015 10:01AM PDT
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Mosquitoes too
Oct 25, 2015 10:11AM PDT

I haven't seen any Crows the Chicagoland area for years now since the west niles virus killed them off.

Just sayin"

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Windows probably kill more birds than cats
Oct 25, 2015 10:37AM PDT

They may see reflections of the sky and not know the difference. Many migratory species fly at night and use the stars to navigate. They get confused by city lights in metropolitan areas. This causes them to fly into buildings and crash to the ground. Any injury to wings or loss of flight feathers is a death sentence to birds.

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Good reply
Oct 25, 2015 2:28PM PDT

I noticed that, for cats, it's the feral cats and not your house pet that is noted. I can't blame feral cats for wanting to eat. House cats seem to hunt more for their own enjoyment. They rarely eat what they catch. My son works as a volunteer at a wildlife rehabilitation center. Most of the animals brought in have a human connection to their injuries. Car strikes, window strikes, lawnmower accidents, etc., bring in lots of patients. There is a great mortality rate anyway. Because many of the animals are predators themselves, animals that die and haven't been medicated are used as food for other patients. Hawks, owls, eagles, etc., will be fed deceased "patients" if they're already on the bird's diet. This disturbs some people who bring in robins and doves only to find out that some Cooper's hawk got to dine on them. That's how life goes in the animal world around us.