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The Famous Jeep Grand Cherokee Electrical Problem

Nov 16, 2007 7:05AM PST

It seems no one has solved this puzzle yet, but I'll give it a shot of my own. Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated.

'97 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 135,000 miles

Various warning lights
Power comes on at night
Instrument cluster & gages haywire
Stalling
Dead battery overnight
Feedback in speakers
Repeatedly blown 20A fuse on engine fuse block
Turns over, but now won't catch

Replaced: Ignition switch & ignition cylinder block, cam sensor, throttle position sensor. Cost: $750

Tried: new battery, unplugging PCM computer, checked all fuses.

And the alternator checked out all right.

Any ideas?...the dealer in stumped. (replacing the PCM computer seems to only have a 50% success rate)

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jeep
Mar 29, 2010 1:07PM PDT

pulls apart easy reconnects and lines up easy

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Hi...
Jul 7, 2010 12:44PM PDT

if you do need one you can et if off ebay for about$180

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1997 jeep grand cherokee
Apr 11, 2010 1:19AM PDT

my problem is my computer or command center in the dash right in front of the transmission shifter, that shows that a door is open or how many miles till my next service works fine.But every time i turn my jeep off i have to recent it.I've checked the fuse it was fine can someone please tell me how to fix this problem

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The Famous Jeep Grand Cherokee Electrical Problem
Apr 13, 2010 10:16PM PDT

just had one of these. the wiring on the A connector (black) had a broken pin in it. worked intermittently. just a thought

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Dead battery issue solved
May 2, 2010 11:02AM PDT

So the issue I had was pretty much the same.Replaced the battery and it would start fine etc for about a week then dead. Today I got lucky and realized that if I pulled the red positive cable towards the front of the car it would all come back to life and start as normal. I believe I just need to replace the cable, the pair are intertwined with other connections right next to the right headlight. I believe the 90 degree turns are putting too much stress on the cable and connections. It will eventually go back to dead again Im sure, but at least now I know where the issue is at.

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short
May 5, 2010 9:42PM PDT

look for an obvious shorted or worn wire rubbing against mettal... good luck

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Misdiagnosed BCM Failure - 99 Jeep GRand Cherokee
Jul 2, 2010 11:51PM PDT

My air conditioning, power windows and locks had stopped working abruptly in my 99 Jeep Grand Cherokee. The temperature gauge on the overhead console just displayed lines. I inspected the wires running from the drivers side door to the body and the black wire was broken. It was an electrical problem that my mechanic thought a dealership would be better able to diagnose and repair. The dealership took about an hour to tell be my BCM was bad and it would cost $900 to replace. Apparently this is a very common problem in older Jeeps, especially models previous to 2000. One solution I found was to simply unplug the battery - plugging it back in would reset the BCM. I did this and my air conditioning came back, keep in mind the black wire was still broken. I called the dealership and told them what happened, he said that my BCM is still bad but if I want to take it back in so they can look at it again I could. I asked if the broken wire could be the reason that the windows are not working, he said No, it's the BCM. I went back to my mechanic and had them mend the wire. My windows and locks came back immediately, my air conditioning is fine.

So basically the wire needed to be mended and the BCM needed to be reset which just required me to unplug the battery and plug it back in.

I do not think that it was anyone's intention to miss-diagnose my vehicle, but maybe someone could have been more thorough? Maybe they should have known that this was a common problem among Jeeps and that one very easy solution was to reset the BCM/battery? Maybe they should have mended the wire and reset the BCM? The thought that I would have paid $1000 to fix something on my vehicle that was not broken is nauseating. The thought that there are probably a TON of people that have replaced their BCM's and may have been able to avoid it is crazy.

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Faulty wire... dealerships
Jul 3, 2010 12:14PM PDT

Great post!!!
Your post doesn't surprise me... but it's not just the dealerships that look for the easy answers, as many repair shops do the same. It comes down to the knowledge and care of the individual, not the shop, who is repairing the car.

Most dealerships and repair shops are looking for someone to cover paychecks and don't care who pays the bill.... find a good mechanic, not the shop and stick with him!

Glad to hear you got yours fixed !

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instrument cluster
Jul 6, 2011 9:50PM PDT

Just add my 2 cents here.

My 99 GCL had exactly the same problem. A reputable mechanic checked the car for about two months and was unable to identify the problem. He recommended me to go to the dealer.

The dealer tested the different electrical units such as BCM, ECU, etc. They could not tell me where it went wrong but thought the instrument cluster might cause all the problems, including the power windows. They had the instrument cluster replaced. So far so good.

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stalling problem solved
Jul 4, 2010 1:12PM PDT

it was a crunk sensor. my mechanic just changed it and it works fine now

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Continued Jeep Problems
Aug 1, 2010 11:54PM PDT

I Have a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee...

It has about 127000 miles on it and has been a pain in my side since I got it about 6 years ago. Inital problems were that the battery would drain if it sat without being driven for 3 or 4 days... but then the problems got worse.

I now have issues with stalling (I can be sitting at a light and it will turn off, and I can be going 50mph and it will stall);
Other issues it will back fire on me;
It has already blown the muffler once;
Before stalling it will jump in RPMs to about the 3,000 or 4,000 mark and then it mill fall dramaticly jump up and down at about 500 - 100 rpm and then fail;
I at one point just decided to keep the thing from having battery issues I would disconnect the calbe every night. It worked, but it was also a pain to do every day.

I've taken it in to about 3 different shops all of them charged me about 200-300 dollars in labor and it is till having issues. I've changed the spark plugs myself, replaced the computer, replaced the ABS system, changed the catalitic converter, changed the O2 censor, and there is no helping it. Right now the check engin light is on, and I'm taking it to the mechanic yet another time to see if they can play guess and check. no issues with the lights... at one point my car told me my back lights were out which they were not. It no longer tells me that though. There is a lot of feed back in my speakers as well. I also notice it has alot more issue with stalling in wet weather and then battery draining occures more frequently in winter.

I'll let you know if they find the problem...

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RE: Your stalling issue
Aug 2, 2010 3:41AM PDT

The stalling issue with the Jeeps is generally due to a faulty crankcase sensor. The symptoms are as you've described; the vehicle can stall while running (and parked), or it could stall without warning moving 70 mph on an interstate. Auto-zone sells the crank sensor for around $50.00; I bought one for my JGC on Ebay for $19.

I do have a suggestion on stalling in wet weather. I had a vehicle years ago that ran much rougher in wet weather, yet ran fine when it was dry. I changed the spark plug wires, and it solved the issue; the problem was a crack in one of the wires.

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Same here
Aug 12, 2010 5:27AM PDT

"Before stalling it will jump in RPMs to about the 3,000 or 4,000 mark and then it mill fall dramaticly jump up and down at about 500 - 100 rpm and then fail..."


I have had a similar problem with 2002 JGC and cannot get rid of it. Its doesn't stall, but when I start it the RPM run up to 2500 and sta there for a good 10 seconds before slowly falling down to 1100. After ir runs for a while it'll settle down to 900 or so, but there are a lot of fluctuations before that happens.

It will also demonstrate lack of power at time when driving...it won't kick into overdrive, even if you jam the pedal to the floor. It almost feels like its starving for oxygen, but I had it checked for vaccumm leaks already and installed a new Idle Air Solenoid.

Really, I'm at a loss. That's really all that wrong with it, depsite 109,000 miles.

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2003 GCL body control module
Aug 30, 2010 5:28AM PDT

Where do I start, my father installed a switch that was connected from my battery to my radiator fan and had it grounded to the frame, the switch got to hot and melted thru my ambient air temp sensor. Shortly after that my AC didn't work, my power windows didn't work, my wipers didn't, headlights don't work, rear defrost doesn't work either, however other things still do, ie turn signals, radio, cruise, my brights if i hold the switch back...I replaced the ambient air temp sensor and was told that during the diagnostic the BCM wasn't responding....i've done alot of reasearch and this black wire on the drivers side is intact and doesn't appear to be 'broken'....

My question is, I have a module number of P56050231AC, I see one one eBay with a number of P56050231AD, now is this going to be compatible with my jeep or would I have to have it reprogrammed like I've read online?

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The toggle may be the problem
May 30, 2011 3:25PM PDT

I would try changing the toggle. If the toggle is just connected through the hot wire to the fan, It does not need a ground. I saw someone do this with headlights and it melted every wire they had ran, instantly. Just unhook the ground wire from the switch your father installed.
Good luck with your issue

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my jeep kept stalling when it was wet
Nov 30, 2010 4:07AM PST

my jeep was stalling out all the time when it got wet only. turns out it was the O2 sensor plug. it was covered in mud lol (probably cuz my jeep always is) made sure it was up and out of the way for when we went wheeling in it and it hasnt stalled since.

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May be mechanical
May 30, 2011 3:21PM PDT

On the back firing, blown muffler, and the stalling I would definitely have someone hook a timing light to it and make sure it is in time. If that does not fix this problem, I would try adjusting the valves. I know that will not fix your electrical issues, but it may take care of the others.
I hope this helps.

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"The Famous Electrical Problem" 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Sep 1, 2010 4:04AM PDT

As a last resort before deciding to dump thousands into this issue, I thought I might try the google search thing to see if I might find some help solving the problem?

For the last 90 days on my 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee, I've had no AC, windows would not roll down, over head lamps would not come on, and the over head temp/computer was not working. I took it to a mechaninc to examine. He checked the fuses under the hood and under the steering column. Nothing. Played with some wires and again nothing. This estimate came back with very little certainty. Who knows how long and if they'll find the problem?

Today, after reading several posts, I disconnected the battery for 30 minutes. After re-connecting the battery and starting the Jeep, WALLLLLAAAAA! It worked! AC nice and cold, windows are rolling down, and the temp. gauge and computer are working! Now we'll just keep our fingers crossed!

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RE: The Famous Electrical Problem" 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Sep 1, 2010 4:26AM PDT

Disconnecting the battery is generally a temporary fix, and will work for a period of 3 to 10 days. Most seem to feel that the culprit of the gauges not working/windows not working/etc, is the BCM. The issue seems to be that corrosion forms on the contacts of the BCM, and out of the blue, the electrical issues commence that cause mechanics to scratch their heads.

The resolution seems to be to (1) disconnect the battery (2) find and unplug the BCM (located inside the car, under the dash near the glove box) (3) thoroughly clean the contacts with contact cleaner. (4) re-plug in the BCM and re-connect the battery.

As you know, disconnecting the battery essentially re-boots the electrical system, so initially, the problems should appear to be solved. Give it a few weeks to determine if in fact this solves your problem. It's worth a try, before spending huge amounts of money on the vehicle without resolving the problem.

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jeep electrical
Sep 1, 2010 4:57AM PDT

all you are doin is resetting the bcm .the problem lies in bus communications. the main junctions on the passenger side near the kick panel contain bus wiring which controls communication these are either wet or correded .start there also do a search on how to monitor bus comm while cnecking voltage.

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The Famous Jeep Grand Cherokee Electrical Problem
Sep 3, 2010 8:44AM PDT

i had similar problem. when the dash goes haywire, it's like when the car starts-up. ie. when the car starts, it uses the battery. and as soon as it cranks over, it switches to alternator power. during this process all the electricals (lights, breaks, blinkers etc...) start up, and the dash does like a test of everything. it turns on all the dash indicator lights. if it's all ok, it turns the dash lights off. like your haywire lightshow, but in reverse.
this means that the alternator, while driving, doesn't put out the power the car is drawing up. if you tested the alternetor, and its ok, the there must be a short somewhere (corroded blinker sockets, inadecuate/loose ground wire, loose battery terminals etc.) these faults can cause the battery to die. also everytime the altenator quits, all the power the car needs, is sucked from the battery. for a brief moment, then switches back to the alternator. as if you re-start the car while driving. these few seconds of re-diverting haywire, gives the battery a heavy workout.

in conclusion: check all connections, fittings, terminals, bulbs, wires (inc. spark plug leads) for any imperfections and replace.
my problem was with my spark plug leads and a sulfated blinker light socket. the leads weren't good quality. and weren't insulating enough. it was arcing outside the enginge. and a loose battery terminal. i got a set of MSD extra thick silicon spark leads and NKG spark plugs. heavy duty battery terminals. and replaced the entire blinker wire and socket, for good measure.

i hope this helps.
regards,
chefaustra.

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The Famous Jeep Electrical problem...hopefully solved
Sep 3, 2010 4:56PM PDT

I have just been through this nightmare. It all started with intermittent power to the windows and door locks...a clicking sound. Then the gauges went haywire, and the icons stayed illuminated....all the things listed in this forum.
The (Jeep certified) repair shop did the following....over 4 months.
Replaced a broken wire in the door, then replaced the instrument cluster (big $$ on my part). After that, the following was on their dime......replaced the BCM - twice, driver door wiring harness, instrument cluster (again). This week, they replaced the PCM and SKIM module. 4 days...so far so good.
$2000 later (they paid a lot more, and I am thankful they stepped up to the plate after they said they fixed it 3 different times).
All these things are the symptoms for the real problem. All things pointed to the SKIM module....and they replaced the PCM for the heck of it I'm sure. I am just glad it's working again! So far....

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jeep grand cherokee electrical problems
Sep 7, 2010 1:56AM PDT

My JGC 2002 would start and cut off, gauges was acting haywire, and the car would not run on idle. The first thing I did was change the battery, but that did not solve the problem even though the old baterrt was bad. The next thing I did was clean the battery cable. I took them out the terminals and clean them with a steel brush. I noticed a significant amount of rust and corrosion fall out the cables while I was cleaning them. After I did that my JGC started right up. I recommned you to start of by checking your battery then clean your wires and terminals.

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RE: Cleaning the terminals isn't the solution.
Sep 7, 2010 2:43AM PDT

When you disconnect the power source, the electrical system essentially re-boots itself. The gauges (and the other issues) will appear to be back to normal. This will last for a period of 3 to 10 days.

FYI: Check other posts, on this forum and on Edmunds.com. The real culprit is either the BCM, or a broken wire in the boot running between the car and the drivers side door.

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GC Madness...
Oct 3, 2010 10:00AM PDT

Hello everyone.
I'm posting very far from you (from Europe) and I do have the same problems that everyone as stated here.

I do have a 1999 JGC Quadra Drive 3.1 VM Diesel Engine with 234000km with some of the synthoms described here.
- Gauges do not work, go to zero
- Odometer does not count mileage
- No AC
- No Electric Windows
- Never Stalled the engine
- P1687 and P1686 are the errors stated on Odometer

Normally I do hear a "click" noise on passenger side before this happens.

Normally I do solve this problem by cutting off the battery for one night and in the morning everything works perfectly.

I'm on the mood to solve this problem as I like the car as it is safe and confortable.

I was thinking to take the car to a dealer but after viewing some posts here I think I'll have to quit this idea and try to solve it at an independent shop.
My idea is that if I take the car to a dealer it will solve the problem for the moment, charge me a lot of money and I'll have to return in a near future for the same problem but another cause. One problem, hundreds of causes, so hundreds of possibilities to charge me money. "This time is another thing, not the same last time..." that's what I'll hear from dealer.

I want to sell the car but not as it is and I'll not sell it before I solve the problem in a permanent way.

But if this problem just irritate me there's another problem that scarrys me as it's putting my family's life in danger... So here's where I really need help, to see if this already happened to someone:

On a bumpy tarmac road if the front wheels hit a hole or a small bump on the road the steering starts to shake A LOT, you can't turn the stering as it is too heavy, all car is shakes itself, you hear a lot of noise coming from the front wheels. You'll have to reduce to below 60 km/h for it stops and than you carry on your journey. Tyres are new, tracking is fine, no sign of mechanical damage. May think this might be an electronic problem that upsets the car on irregular roads. It used to happen once in a while but is frequently to happen now.

Would like to know if this happened to someone and some ideas to share.

Thank you.
Nuno - Portugal

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Steering Stabilizer
Jan 7, 2011 3:32AM PST

Hello Nuno: I used to own a JGC about 14 years ago, and experienced the same shaking in the steering. Several mechanics looked at the truck and I replaced brakes, steering components, nothing helped until finally I found a good mechanic who immediately realised that the steering stabilizer shock was worn out. It is approximately a $40 part, and is easily replaced with two tools. I just bought a 1992 Jeep Cherokee for the farm, and it had the same shaking in the steering. I changed the steering stabilizer, problem solved immediately. Sorry, I can't help with the electrical thing...

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Re: The Famous Jeep Grand Cherokee Electrical Problem
Oct 3, 2010 10:08PM PDT

Hi...friends

You just go to your nearest service center and check it by car expert....Then car expert will replaced the required parts...and EVERYTHING WAS WORKING AGAIN!!!!!!

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Famous Electrical Problem FIX
Oct 30, 2010 4:46AM PDT

I had this problem a year or so ago and researched it extensively. I found that there was a wire beginning to break in the tube that connects the driver's door to the body. The wire is black and a thicker gauge than most of the wires in there. It's a pain to access the tube and once I did couldn't figure out how to get it back into position. However, I completely broke the wire, stripped the ends and reconnected them with the screw on cone shaped wire connectors you can buy at home depot. This fixes all of the problems immediately. I had all of the interior lights staying on, the instrument panel was going haywire, the overhead info panel was dead and the doors wouldn't lock or unlock. It cost 30 cents to fix. One way to check if this is YOUR problem s to open and close the door to see if this seems to help the problems. I found that if the door was open 50% of the time everything worked. That narrowed it down really quickly. Hope this helps. Good luck!!

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96 GC LIMITED-wont start
Oct 31, 2010 11:10AM PDT

I have a 96 Limited 4.0, with 160K. Turcks been sitting for about 8 months. I started it once a month, no problem. Pulled it into the driveway to get it back on the road. Shut if off, went back to start it...will not start. Low fuel light comes on and it has a half tank of gas in it. The fuel guage does not come up. Its getting no spark from the coil. Replaced the coil and still nothing. Its giving the following codes:
12
42
44
24
22
23
55
Can somebody please help?

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JPG update STILL NEED SOME DIRECTION
Nov 6, 2010 7:02AM PDT

Well, we pulled the correct codes using an OBD and they are: 123 TPS sensor High, 118 Engine Coolant Temp High.

We so far have replaced O2 sensor,coil, replaced both camshaft and crankshaft sensors. Checked all grounds, relay and still no spark!

What should be done next?? Please any responses will be appreciated....short of telling me to sell the POS...nobody will buy a NON running truck.

Again, I am getting no spark. My low fuel light is on even though I have 1/2 tank.