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The draft dodger rants

Oct 4, 2018 12:30AM PDT

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Interesting.
Oct 4, 2018 3:05AM PDT

First, notice the difference in tone between Trump's tweets [his usual bombasticy (?)] and the journalistic tone of the Post.
Second, notice the snide "Pinocchio" rating. That's opinion and negates much of the impact of excellent reporting. [Names, dates, places.] It's why I stopped using tbe Post as a source. There's enough unconscious humor in trumptweets to stand on its own, and is better contrasted with straight reportage [See my Colbert comments, elsewhere
Third, see the problem you have in attacking Trump. With his military history one would expect him to be silent. Instead, he revels in attacking Cain and others and ignores factual responses. Like Joseph Welch to Sen. McCarthy: "Have you no shame, sir"? He hasn't.
Tenth and lastly, quitcherbellyachin'! It's your system, isn't it? Mine ain't got no fortunate sons. Our leaders do the same things we do.
"Some folks are born made to wave the flag
ooo, they're red, white and blue..."

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Third
Oct 4, 2018 11:17AM PDT

The Don has no military history.
He hid in a school to avoid the draft.
Then he developed some physical problem which vanished as soon as the draft vanished.

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Did you actually look into
Oct 4, 2018 4:00AM PDT

the backgrounds and lies the Dem politicians tell about themselves? The only reason that Trump's base believes what he says is because we do our own checking and know he's not lying about it and the fact that the liberal media will NEVER tell the DEM base about it. That's why Trump brings up this stuff in his rallies....he gets massive tv coverage and finally reaches THOSE uninformed people, and the liberals hate it.

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No
Oct 4, 2018 11:40AM PDT

You may fact check but 99% of voters do not.
The Don just makes up stuff as he talks.
That's part of his salesman/conman background.

The Don's base gets their info from FOX and FOX will never say the Don fibbed.

The Dems are just as bad as they get their info from CNN or some other liberal source.

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He didn't get
Oct 4, 2018 6:43PM PDT
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Pols repub or dem
Oct 4, 2018 7:30PM PDT

Are in campaign mod when they speak.

With the Don he is often in attack mod making up stuff to make someone he does not like look bad.

Bloomy admitted he fibbed.

Why would the Don bring up something that happened 8 or 10 yrs ago?

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He admitted
Oct 4, 2018 8:55PM PDT

only because he was caught.
Wasn't this originally a New York Times‘ investigation in 2010 ?

Why shouldn't the pres talk about it since folks are talking about what some guy did in high school ?

The rules have gone out the window and everything is fair game now , especially if those on social media have been bad .
The future POLS are in for a rough ride ...

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Objective
Oct 4, 2018 9:43PM PDT

The Don is attacking blummy because he is upset with the emoluments lawsuit.

The dems are attacking K to delay the vote until after the mid-terms.
K is just a scapegoat in this.
It would not matter who was sitting in the nominee chair that person would be attacked.
The best thing K could have done was to sit quietly and answer the accusations with 'did not happen'.
Instead he has some outburst which added fuel to the fire.

Social media types are talking about an event that is happening today.

The Don is talking about an event that happened 8/10 yrs ago.

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No matter what, you will find excuses for the Dems'
Oct 5, 2018 1:30AM PDT

outrageous lies and behavior and condemn Trump every chance you get.

As for K's outburst...how would YOU react if YOU were accused of THREE atrocious acts from 36 yrs ago that has had NO evidence, 'faulty' memories, NO witnesses, death threats to yourself AND your family, the very REAL probability of not only NOT getting the confirmation, but ALSO losing your EXISTING job, being 'fired' from your current and long standing teaching job, NOT having any employment to care for your family for the rest of your life, no longer being able to coach children, and having your kids be ostracized because of unfounded and unprovable accusations against YOU? How much of an 'outburst' would YOU have AFTER you have ALREADY been calm and collected with your statements PRIOR and AFTER to that ten minute VENTING....knowing you have had the 'temperament' for 20+ YEARS and were completely respected by everyone in that room until THEY decided AHEAD of time that NOW you aren't 'good enough' for society?

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Another rant?
Oct 5, 2018 1:57AM PDT

I said nothing about excusing the dems.

I have already said what K should have done if he wanted the job.

Instead he has this verbal outburst which muddies the water.

Go back and read my post slowly and don't filter it through your righty view of the world.

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"should have done"
Oct 5, 2018 10:04AM PDT

sit quietly and answer the questions....you mean like what he was doing during the FOX interview when so many on the left said he was acting like a 'robot'?

You can't have it both ways...either he appears to be numb and uncaring or he is righteously outraged over what was being done TO him deliberately.

You want to know what REALLY muddied the waters? Feinstein holding her letter for six weeks then dumping it two nights before the vote....Feinstein RECOMMENDING an activist attorney to her (which is actually illegal for a Senator but she'll get away with it as usual). Everything done by the Dems was revenge for Garland....even though it was the BIDEN rule that made it possible, just like it was the REID rule of changing the Senate rules to 51 votes instead of 60. There are rules for Dems and then there are rules for Reps?????

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Another righty rant?
Oct 5, 2018 10:54AM PDT

K should have realized there was an attempt to smear him.

He should have maintained the demeanor of a judge.

Instead he let his temper get the best of him and now people are wondering if he is fit for the SC.

Stop listening to or reading about what the far left or right says.

Those folks live in their own world.

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"Why would the Don bring up something that happened 8 or 10
Oct 5, 2018 1:19AM PDT

yrs ago?"

You didn't just seriously say that with a straight face, did you? Have you HEARD the Dems of the last three months re: K's nomination?

And for your information, Blumenthal didn't FIB....he outright LIED on numerous occasions....have you heard of "Stolen Valor"?

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Lied
Oct 5, 2018 2:08AM PDT

Yes he did and he admitted it and it was 8/10 yrs ago.
So why does the Don bring it up today?

Where talking about bloomy and you want to rant about what the dems are doing today.

Start another thread and rant your brains out.

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So Blum's lie was 8-10 years ago
Oct 5, 2018 10:09AM PDT

and could be easily proven vs Ford's probable lie (in my opinion since there are so many in her story already so why not consider that the actual allegation was also a lie?) that could NOT be proven, even a little bit. Hey...the DEMS are the ones that brought her into the game of get rid of K in any way possible, and THEN found the second one because THEY went searching for another one, and THEN the THIRD one was actually represented by FORD's activist attorney, Katz. Coincidence???? Not freaking hardly.

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The dems had a goal
Oct 5, 2018 11:00AM PDT

K was just a scapegoat in the political battle.

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"A SCAPEGOAT"??????????????????
Oct 6, 2018 2:59AM PDT

You say that with such an offhand manner, and yet it's TOTALLY destroyed HER credibility and life AND it's not only harmed HIM, but his entire FAMILY and their private lives, including two little girls that now can't figure out why they are lepers and can't have the same friends they had a month ago or have their dad still coach their team IF they are even allowed to PLAY on a team anymore. K was a hell of a lot more than just a 'scapegoat'......the Dems considered him and his family and the accuser nothing more than 'collateral damage' in their quest for power retention, and they didn't CARE about the consequences of that damage and it was done DELIBERATELY to all of them.

The fact that you don't seem to mind and that it's ACCEPTABLE behavior to you is disgusting and eye opening...…..because you haven't condemned any part of it. And if someone like ME complains about it, you see it as a RANT. Well, you got THAT right.....because I'm not complaining just for K, but for the accuser as well, and all the rest of the REAL people who didn't ask for or deserve ANY OF THIS DEMOCRAT CRAP.

They did it against Clarence Thomas, Herman Cain, Trump, and K and many others, not to mention smearing the WOMEN who came out with PROOF against Bill Clinton. Dems are only FOR women when it's convenient for them to do so and AGAINST them when it's not....and they're doing it right now as they continue to support Ellis (a black Congressman, second Chair of the DNC, and running for Governor) and ignore HIS accuser who has documented PROOF of his assault on her, including doctors and police reports.

It's disgusting what the Democrat party has turned into over the last 30 years and yet it's actually understandable since this is what Saul Alinsky preached in the 60' when all of these current liberal politicians were rioting and realized that bombing government buildings wasn't getting them anywhere, so they donned 3-pc suits, became professors in our colleges, and ran for office so they could accomplish from within what they couldn't do in the streets....but now that they ARE part of the system they've always hated, they can 'inspire' a younger generation to carry on with the riots and protests and because the NEW professors and politicians will be there to keep it going.

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Acceptable to me?
Oct 6, 2018 4:01AM PDT

Is that more of that stuff that comes out of the place you live?....Fantasy Island

Is it because I don't rant about the hearing like you do?

Is it because when I look at the Dems I don't see a commie under every rock?

For the Dems K was just a means to an end......scapegoat.

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It's only "fantasy island" to
Oct 6, 2018 10:33AM PDT

people who refuse to recognize what's going on in the REAL world, Bob.....of course you don't rant about it. You only throw in one-liner zingers aimed in one direction and not at the true targets...…

I'll talk to you again when you get some credibility.....I never said the Dems were commies. But I'm curious to know what you DO see when you look at today's Democrats.

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What do I see
Oct 6, 2018 1:33PM PDT

When I look at Washington?

I see 2 political parties jockeying for power.

I accept that politics is a dirty game.

As per your rants the dems are the root of all evil and the repubs are lilly white.

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So your terms of endearment
Oct 6, 2018 1:42PM PDT

for Trump are 'the draft dodger' and 'the child' while my term of endearment for BO and his cohorts in crimes committed against Trump (yet to be reported by liberal media) is 'POS'...…..

The difference I see in your statement of "I accept that politics is a dirty game' is that the only ones I've seen play dirty are Dems.....give me an example of the Reps playing anywhere NEAR their level.

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What BO did or not
Oct 6, 2018 3:53PM PDT

Is in the past.
Try to stay focused on who's driving the bus today.

Give you an example....nope.
That would play right into your anti dem grudge list.
I don't pay much attention to the shenanigans that go on in congress.
Perhaps that's because I don't have R or D branded on my forehead.

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(NT) You don't HAVE any examples...so you retreat. OK
Oct 7, 2018 3:07AM PDT
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Retreat...nope
Oct 7, 2018 9:27AM PDT

I just refuse to play your silly anti dem game.

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Instead, you play your even sillier
Oct 8, 2018 3:18AM PDT

anti-Trump game daily.....and can't be bothered to defend your position...EVER

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Show me daily
Oct 8, 2018 4:23AM PDT

Defend....no need....I assume you can read the news.

The guy was over his head from day one

He thought he had been elected dictator.

He speaks and tweets stuff that is 50% made up.

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IMO 99% is too high, but
Oct 7, 2018 11:09AM PDT

the evidence is that its very high.
Soundbite nation.

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It's funny which statistics are acceptable as evidence
Oct 8, 2018 5:21AM PDT

and which are not. If it's a DNA match, my guess is that 99%, on its own, isn't enough. I would also want to see any such statistics placed against those for other crimes as comparison. It's very unfortunate that some people "fake" being robbed, attacked, have their homes broken into, etc., for devious reasons. They spoil it for the honest. I'm sure that, somewhere, a guy has gotten drunk, lost all of his money at a gambling table, deliberately run headlong into a tree and claimed he'd been beaten up and robbed. If he named the robber, the case would be handled differently than if no name could be given.

It's likely that we have plenty of people walking among us who have committed criminal acts...sometimes violent ones...and are not sitting in jail because some jury members were only 99% sure that proof of guilt had been established. With a bunch of youngsters gathered together for fun and where alcohol was being consumed, who is qualified to speak of what may or may not have happened at the party...even the next day, let alone, after 3 decades?