The Download File for Advanced System Care has a Trojan!

I'm glad it's being reviewed. If one program they have has a trojan, and another program they have is made up of stolen data, then who knows about the other programs they have to download...

I just want CNET to review the program again, that's all.

And Malwarebytes' has a lot of proof for their case. I guess only time will tell...

And though this might make me considered a hypocrite, I love their software Smart Defrag. I don't want the negative rumors of IOBit to be true either.

I've tried and there's no way to get iobit.com toolbar off your computer.

Hope you can find way to shed it from these discussions.

http://forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?p=33510

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/index.php?s=d0a60f116543e3afda79dfa7a29ae913&showtopic=273569&st=0&p=1530045&#entry1530045

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t276617.html

dizzyqueen..

I'm ONLY posting this as an "informational piece". Maybe with a slight bent to it. Keep in mind, the original allegations against IOBit. Ten days after IOBit's postulations of no wrongdoing, they seemed to have "changed their tune". Or at least that's my interpretation.

On November 3rd, the following (in part) was posted at IOBit's Blog:

'In consideration of Malwarebytes? fallacy and calumniation, and its terrible effect to our company, products and reputation, we hereby demand that Malwarebytes immediately discontinue to spread all rumors regarding this issue. Otherwise we will consider all appropriate action to protect our legal rights.' I construe 'appropriate actions', to mean they would consider taking legal action. (I may be wrong)

Unless, by "appropriate action to protect themselves", they meant what was in their latest (and last) declaration issued on November 13th:

The Latest Declaration from IObit

'........Due to the serious flaws and defects of our sample submission system and management, the old database includes malware names from non-IObit data sources. We are willing to face all of the problems and take responsibility for the disputes.'

They further go on to say, '...We have apologized for all the inconvenience, meanwhile, we have taken immediate actions to remove all disputed data and updated the whole database online on November 3.'

I don't know if you consider this "coming clean", but read it for yourself and decide.

With a slight bent...
Carol

PS: In fairness to IOBit, I should have included an important statement made, as part of their declaration on November 3rd:

'IObit Security 360 scans faster, detects and removes more malware than any other anti-malware vendors, including Malwarebytes. Why a superior vendor need steal database from a lower-class one?'

Thank you Carol, for taking time to research this and respond to my post. I appreciate it.

Well, I've been trying other products and they just can't replace what Iobit does with Advanced System Care. I can't find any that make it as easy to verify registry errors with HijackThis.de, which has saved me (a dangerous novice) from deleting essential registry items.

I've read Iobit's statement posted on their forum at http://forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?t=4807 and I'm satisfied with their explanation. That, plus your reference to their Nov. 13 statement assures me that they are taking this seriously. I now believe there was no criminal intent involved. Should Malwarebytes sue Iobit and win, I'll have to take that back. But for now, my computer NEEDS ASC! LOL!

Cheers,
Izzy

If the link is disabled, just type in without the spaces: http:// forums. iobit.com /showthread.php?t=4807 ]

lzzy..

Sounds like you have your mind made up. Especially so, because "your computer NEEEEDS ASC!" I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise. Please know, I have nothing against ASC, per se. I would only ask you to consider one thing.

You wrote: "I can't find any that make it as easy to verify registry errors with HijackThis.de, which has saved me (a dangerous novice) from deleting essential registry items". Wouldn't you want to make sure the scanner is up-to-date and accurate?

It goes without saying, the best (and recommended) way of having a HijackThis log analyzed, is in the hands of a trained expert. With THAT said, if you feel you must use a log analyzer, I strongly suggest you go directly to http://www.hijackthis.de/ , instead of using the analyzer built into ASC.

While HijackThis.de is intergrated into ASC, it's not their's. They're only using the service. The site itself, affords you more accurate and up-to-date results. It's not perfect by any means, but it might prevent you from removing a critical or important file. Something you would be more apt to do, with the integrated scanner. I don't say this lightly, as I've witnessed the damage first hand. Not on my system, but one I maintain. Please consider this.

As far as the Malwarebytes' and IObit controversy is concerned, you might want to read this. It's the most unbiased "take" of the situation, I've read thus far.

Good luck! And have a great holiday season.
Carol

Thanks, Carol,

I didn't see your post until after I responded to David's post. On the HijackThis.de site, I don't see an option to scan. I did find TrendMicro's version of HijackThis on CNET and did my usual procedure - I list the user ratings by most negative. After I weed out people who are generally disgruntled about everything, I read the CONS from those who appear to know something about the issue. While on that page, I noted that the most popular anti-malware download via CNET is Malwarebytes. Is their registry evaluation as good as HijackThis, and is it useful for people like me who don't read registry entries very well?

As far as Iobit and Malwarebytes, I've decided to let the courts sort that out. Thanks for the link to the article.

Thanks,
Izzy

Hi lzzy..

'On the HijackThis.de site, I don't see an option to scan.'

HijackThis.de is an automated system, which was set up to analyze logs, after downloading and scanning with the HijackThis utility. The utility generates a log, which would then be copied and pasted, where indicated at the site. Read Trend's HijackThis Overview. It should give you, a better idea of what HJT does and how it works.

I still feel the need to stress, that the recommended way of having a log analyzed is by going to a support forum, with trained analysts. The analyzer was only meant to supply "additional support". The forums also make use of various other tools, when HJT (or even MBAM) can't do the job. An automated scanner can't do the same thing. Be it the one built into ASC, or the site itself.

When referring to Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware, you wrote 'Is their registry evaluation as good as HijackThis, and is it useful for people like me who don't read registry entries very well?'

I likened HJT and MBAM to apples and oranges, only because they were meant to be used in different ways. Malwarebtyes' Anti-Malware scans your system, evaluates the results and indicates what needs removal. HJT generates a report of registry and file settings. It doesn't determine what needs removal, as MBAM does. Each accomplishes something different, depending on the problem. But for the most part, I think MBAM does a very good overall job. HJT wasn't designed to be a registry cleaner. Hopefully, you'll rarely (if ever) have a need for it.

With ALL the above said, I know you're fond of ASC and it's works for you. That's the most important thing! It truly is.

My last 25

Nowhere near as profound a post as Carol's latest link,
but have you considered Ccleaner or Glary Utilities
as alternatives to ASC?

Don't they all offer competing capabilities?

FWIW I also use Iobit 360 and Smart Defrag,
I'm not boycotting them.

Thanks, David.

I have used CCleaner for some time as an alternative and am happy with it. I just downloaded Glary Utilities last week on my new Windows 7, so I need some time to know how well that works for me.

The one most helpful thing about AWC for me, not a novice but not a pro, is the ability to copy/paste the registry item it detects to HijackThis.de, which shows what the registry key does, other users' rating of how safe it is, etc. That has saved me from deleting essential registry items. None of the other utilities I've found so far allow the ability to copy/paste the "suspect" registry entries that are found.

and that just not true Malwarebite is one of the best as reflexed in most tech magazines

How do I find it in the Vista O/S?

I assume you want to keep Smart Defrag
and delete the optional toolbar chosen/not de-selected
during installation and set-up.

See if these help:

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t276617.html

http://forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?t=5587

http://forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?p=33510

I used Revo Uninstaller Pro to remove Firefox, which I'm not using again. I think the toolbar is gone with Firefox.

It wouldn't uninstall from FF. Using Chrome and IE again.

Would you please clarify about Firefox;
you tried steps like these?

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Uninstalling_toolbars

We were talking about cleaning systems, c drives;
also IE and FF have very different ways of handling toolbars.

So to answer your question, I cannot answer your question.

DON'T FORMAT YET. Copy your files out before you wipe the drive.

Hard drives fail, a slip of the mouse and file vanish.

There long discussions about these cleaners but no moderator here uses them.

Avoid at all costs.
Dafydd.