The Constitution states everyone in America

where it's considered "normal" to be a racist and/or a bigot?

Is it "normal" to have "mental health issues"?

YOU seem to believe he has 'mental health' issues because he took his racism and bigotry over the top.

Does that fact that I despise BO mean I have 'mental health' issues.....or that because I despise his policies and agendas, I'm a racist or bigot? Everyone in the world has people in their lives or environment that flat out piss them off for various reasons....we normally don't go around killing them.

What is your definition of 'normal' vs your definition of 'mental health' issues since you seem to be convinced that this 21-yr-old killer has 'mental health' issues based on the fact that he killed people rather than on the fact that he just hated a race so much he was willing to do whatever he thought was going to eliminate them from his world? He isn't crazy....he just is evil with hatred.

After all if it's crazy for cops to stop trespassers at a private community pool and to arrest the ones refusing the order to leave, and getting arrested, then how much MORE crazy is it for Carl Rowan, a champion of gun control, of black causes being black himself, to use an unregistered handgun to shoot at some white kids sneaking into his pool. Liberals are very choosy on whom they label crazy when it's a liberal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Rowan#Shooting_controversy

Again, with YOUR nonsense...

YOU seem to believe he has 'mental health' issues because he took his racism and bigotry over the top.

And you don't? It's a perfectly normal thing for a racist/bigot to do?

Everyone in the world has people in their lives or environment that flat out piss them off for various reasons....we normally don't go around killing them.

Yet, you don't think he has mental health issues. HATE so intense he'll kill.

'Splain yourself, Lucy.

Does that fact that I despise BO mean I have 'mental health' issues

I'm not going to answer that one.

What do you think is different about him and all the other racists and bigots? THEY aren't out killing people. They rant and rave and do nothing else. (like you, about Obama) They don't have the same mental health problems as Roof. They have mental health problems...but not as many and not as bad.

He isn't crazy....he just is evil with hatred..

And That's not a mental health problem?

In case you think because some one is suffering from a mental health problem they get to walk away/escape punishment.

The mere fact of suffering from a mental disorder does not automatically exempt a person from criminal responsibility. A thorough legal and psychiatric review will determine the person's state. The verdict will then be guilty, not guilty, or not criminally responsible on account of mental disorder.

Charleston church shooter Dylann Roof was a known drug user who was caught with the powerful mind-altering narcotic Suboxone when apprehended by police during an incident on Feb. 28.

YOU suggested that BECAUSE he killed people he automatically has 'mental health' issues.........I'M saying he doesn't because YOU don't have a degree in mental health to even ... wait for it.......SPECULATE on that.

You also suggested (correction: STATED) that racists/bigots automatically have 'mental health' issues just BECAUSE they are racists/bigots......and that everyone else who isn't MUST be 'normal'. """"They have mental health problems...but not as many and not as bad.""""""

The drugs were FOUND......no word yet on whether he had them in his BODY. BUT if he DID have them in his system, is that going to be his defense? The "I didn't do it, the drugs did"....sounds more like the old "Twinkee" defense tried years ago.

People are either brought up to hate or they learn to hate from childhood upwards....that doesn't mean they have mental health issues....it means they have a learned behavior that is acceptable to themselves.

crazy is as crazy does?

there's a greater number of blacks who are crazy, considering 48% of all deaths in US are done by them? Crazy????

It's a long way from "mental health issues" to "crazy". Are you another one without a "degree in mental health"?

mental health, in your opinion, a vast majority of the people on earth (especially in the USA since that's your focus on 'gun control') would be ineligible to the right to bear arms.....but a 'mental health' check wouldn't show up anything that would disqualify them from getting one. So you're again talking nonsense trying to use that as a reason for getting guns out of the hands of our citizens.

Just as your 'five year old behind the wheel of a car' is a ridiculous argument....

If you can contain and control yourself, please tell us in realistic terms what your point is and how you would solve the problem of a handful (over years) of hate-filled people with an agenda killing others (I'm not talking about one-on-one killings....I'm talking about taking out a large number all at one time). And remember as well, that this jerk didn't use an 'automatic' AK or assault rifle....this was a handgun that he reloaded five times before he was finished... He was deliberate and determined and focused on his mission....it wasn't a situation that was over with in a matter of seconds in a hail of automatic spray which has mainly been the liberal outrage previously.

YOU: "OR can't they prevent a 5 year old from having a weapon/driving a vehicle?"

Just how do you suggest the 'government' PREVENT it?

Believe it or not, there are many younger than 10-yr-olds in farming communities who learn how to drive not only vehicles, but tractors as well....would you have government stop that so they can't work on their own property? Then you have the situation of "once they know how to drive, how you gonna keep 'em down on the farm" (that's a joke in case you don't see it).

And, in case you missed it, your example is again ridiculous......because you act first as if a little kid driving is an every day situation and second because you act as if it's preventable by the government in the first place.

.....like you are. Isn't obsession a mental disorder too?

Googling it shows black deaths but not blacks causing deaths.

than the 48% I mentioned, it's over 52% of all murders since 1980. That means considering the much smaller size of their population group, their murderous crime rate is 7-8 times HIGHER than murders by whites. Also more blacks kill whites than are killed by whites.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States#Homicide

Yeah, go ahead, try and defend that one for them.

try the FBI.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide

An examination of data regarding the offenders for whom race was known showed that 53.6 percent were black, 43.9 percent were white, and 2.5 percent were of other races. The race was unknown for 4,112 offenders. (Based on Expanded Homicide Data Table 3.)

Wives and girlfriends come in for a high rate as murdered victims.

However, almost 78% of all deaths by murder are male.

89 % of all murders were done by males.

About a third of all murders seem to be unsolved.

heroin addiction. He never tried to hurt or kill anyone.
This shows the side effects of the drug and I don't see rage or hate or violence in the list.

believe the way you do or do you have 'mental health' issues that make you 'un-normal' according to your dictionary? Is it 'normal' in your world to be antagonistic in a deliberate fashion to people who don't feel/believe the same way you do or would that mean you have 'mental health' issues?

I distinctly recall a post or two of yours admitting that you enjoy doing it. Does that mean you have mental health issues?

I was just trying to be more agreeable...to see if you would change your attitude...THAT hasn't worked...I'm working on another strategy.

from getting that gun because he didn't HAVE a mental health history to check....only an arrest history for stuff that would have been okayed anyhow.

So your point IS?

I got mine in my teens. Didn't shoot anyone.

there's no statement that limits the right to bear arms, other than most law applies to those who are age of majority, or adult, so that could apply to someone without the capability to become an adult, mentally. I don't see anything that proves the shooter has mental problems, maybe he's just like Islamic radicals. Are we ready to say they are all crazy?