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The biggest con job in the history of man

by critic411 / December 14, 2008 9:11 PM PST
http://www.sunjournal.com/story/295647-3/Columnist/The_biggest_con_job_in_the_history_of_man/

"Be skeptical about global warming and you're branded with a scarlet "D" for "Denier." Say global warming is a crock, and you are shunned at parties.

I'm an environmentalist, like most in Maine, but I'm not an environmental zealot.

Because I'm also an economist and a professional business analyst. From these perches, I can see policies that purport to fix global warming - like cap and trade taxes, and legislation that enacts them, like the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative or the federal Climate Security Act - as pernicious and corrupting ideas in the arena of business and politics.

They're elegant con jobs, which turn junk science into major dollars for developers.

People like former governor Angus King and energy expert Matt Simmons are smart. They see the global warming rainbow coming and are placing their pots at the end of it."

"It all boils down to one question.

Why should we pay so much, trying to stop a natural event?
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It all boils down to one question.
by Kees Bakker / December 14, 2008 9:19 PM PST

Why do some people believe it's all natural?

Kees

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(NT) Because that's what the science supports.
by Kiddpeat / December 14, 2008 9:32 PM PST
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Some science, maybe. Not THE science.
by Kees Bakker / December 14, 2008 9:43 PM PST

If it was THE science, most people would believe it (not all, of course). Now it's only some science for only some people. So be it.

Kees

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False
by C1ay / December 14, 2008 9:54 PM PST

There is no scientific support for a supreme being yet most people believe there is one. Science hunts for the truth but it doesn't force anyone to drink from its trough.

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RE: Science hunts for the truth
by JP Bill / December 14, 2008 10:17 PM PST
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Science hunts for the truth but it doesn't force anyone to drink from its trough.

That's what people do.
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on the other hand
by jonah jones / December 14, 2008 11:37 PM PST
In reply to: False

There is no scientific support against a supreme being yet some people believe there is none. Science may hunt for the truth but it doesn't always have something to drink from its trough.


bad paraphrasing i know Wink

.,

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(NT) Bad, but makes the point. :-)
by Angeline Booher / December 14, 2008 11:48 PM PST
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Correct
by C1ay / December 15, 2008 12:01 AM PST
In reply to: on the other hand

And it shows that many people believe things regardless of what science can support. My assertion remains, the claim that "If it was THE science, most people would believe it" is false.

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Chuckle. "THE science"?
by Kiddpeat / December 15, 2008 8:23 AM PST

I love it! I must light my lantern, and go looking for "THE science". I'm sure I will recognize it when I see it.

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(NT) Let's hope you are more successful than Diogenes was.
by Bill Osler / December 15, 2008 8:27 AM PST
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Yep !! The science and FACTS support it
by critic411 / December 15, 2008 12:16 AM PST

All one has to do otherwise is ignore a billion years of history.


If someone make a claim that is counter to known and accepted scientific facts, it is incumbent upon THEM to prove it, not the other way around.

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(NT) You seem to do the opposite of what you say.
by Kees Bakker / December 15, 2008 12:31 AM PST
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As I explained before ...
by Kees Bakker / December 15, 2008 12:36 AM PST
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(but you don't seem to be impressed) any fact about things happening before there were men is totally unrelated to the possible influence of men.

Example: although men might be responsible for the nearly total disappearance of the bison in North America, they certainly aren't responsible for the disappearance of the dinosaurs. But knowing that the dinosaurs went from natural causes, doesn't imply the same for the disappearance of bisons. That's a FACT.
That's about the same as the climate then and the climate now. That's a FACT for the same reason.

Kees

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Now, that's what I call a compelling logical argument.
by Kiddpeat / December 15, 2008 11:26 AM PST

Something happened to dinosaurs. Something happened to Bison. Whatever happened to Bison is, therefore, what is happening to climate.

That quite a stretchy sort of FACT. It is not, however, a conclusion which is supported by your logic. That reasoning would not pass muster in Logic 101.

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Thank you !
by grimgraphix / December 15, 2008 1:00 AM PST

You finally post a thread that admits it is all about one thing... MONEY !

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