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The AMD 64 Athlon 3000+ & The (MB) Asus K8v Delux Review

Oct 23, 2004 2:28AM PDT

This is a great device currently its rounding up too 300 dollors canadian. It is a great chip it works great with the k8v deluxe asus motherboard. It is currently 2.0 gigahertz amd usally that is a 4.0 gigahertz in the intel celeron series. Also make sure you have a compatiaple power supply to soport the chip you cant get a nany power supply 300watts . i currently have a 420 wat thermtake powersupply. you should also use the hearsink fan that is provided unless if your thinking of overclocking the chip then ull need a special and expensive cooling fan for the chip. Asus to me is the greatest computer hardware company for processors and motherboards. For the K8V Deluxe it is a well created board and prepaird for everyting i have the ocz technology dual channel ram 512 and it works beutifully but i would recommend that you get the 1 gig of ram because at times i run low on ram for the type of games i run considering im running the ati radeion 9800 XT which cose me 6 bills which is also 256 ddr ram so i recommend if u are thinking of buying this set of system or any high performance system go straight for the gig of ram if ur in to the high end games.

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Re: The AMD 64 Athlon 3000+ & The (MB) Asus K8v Delux Revie
Oct 23, 2004 2:44AM PDT

What version windows are you running? From the little bit I've ready so far about the 64bit boards, XP SP2 isn't compatible with it.

TONI

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Good info on 64 bit processors
Dec 15, 2004 6:36AM PST

Hi, Check out this website, there is a lot of good info about 64 bit processors/Motherboards and OS. John

http://planetamd64.com/

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Re: The AMD 64 Athlon 3000+ & The (MB) Asus K8v Delux Revie
Oct 24, 2004 8:50AM PDT

I've been pleased with Asus, too. Three questions: does the "cool & quiet" AMD64 factor work? Is WindowsXP Professional superior in gaming? And, are there good LCD monitors available for gaming? Thx.

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Re: The AMD 64 Athlon 3000+ & The (MB) Asus K8v Delux Revie
Oct 25, 2004 1:46PM PDT

Any AMD high end processor works well with Win XP as its made for win XP and if any questions about it,you can go to microsoft and read all about it.Good luck.....

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But....how about SP2 for XP?
Oct 25, 2004 6:42PM PDT

I may be wrong, but I thought I read something in a pc magazine recently that SP2 was causing problems with 64bit processors.

TONI

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How about SP2 for XP?
Dec 30, 2004 3:26AM PST

Again if your are running a 64 bit processor you should ba at XP SP2. John

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Explain how/why a 64 bit processor was designed
Oct 26, 2004 5:47AM PDT

for Win XP. AMD did design it to run 32 code very well, but where do you get the idea that MS has the slightest care whether their patches work with a 64 bit system running 32 bit code???

I would be excreedingly pleased if you post a link to an MS article that takes the position that you espoused.

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Re: The AMD 64 Athlon 3000+ & The (MB) Asus K8v Delux Revie
Oct 26, 2004 7:32AM PDT

My question was what, if any, advantage Windows XP Professional has over Windows XP Home Edition?

Also, are the benefits of AMD's Cool&Quiet real?

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For the purpose of gaming I would doubt that the
Oct 26, 2004 9:38AM PDT

Operating system has any impact. It is the CPU's ability to process/execute [beause of its architecture] the game software that counts. The operating system basically only lets you open the game.

No idea what cool and quiet actually means,[they have a peak power dissipation of 89 watts. hard to call cool][ever touch a 90 watt light bulb???] but I do know that AMD has finally done some of the good things related to thermal control that Intel had for a few years. A heat spreader on the CPU chip, internal calibrated temp circuitry to throttle or shut the CPU down rather than let it fry..

You MUST keep all of the CPU's cool for gaming because they do throttle down the speed [without any notice]when they get above some internal temperature. You can see this problem mentioned in the gamer forums.

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Re: For the purpose of gaming I would doubt that the
Oct 27, 2004 7:13AM PDT

Thanks, Ray. I understand that AMD's "Cool and Quiet" somehow lowers the energy requirement (and thus cools) the CPU when processing demands are slow ??? Benefits in real life are ???.

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The demands ain't ever going to be
Oct 27, 2004 7:27AM PDT

low while gaming. LOL

That is the throttling back on the clock speed that I mentioned that Intel has had for a few years. The lower the speed the less heat generated. The throttling can also occur due to heat and for gaming that is bad and why one needs to really get a good cooler on the CPU.

When one is doing simple word processing,surfing the net, the CPU can be slowed down and one will never notice it. When the systems got to 500 MHz there was very little justification for higher speeds for word prcoessing. Remember surfing is a serial process and the CPU's work with parallel data, so it really can loaf. When Intel claimed that their PIII's gave faster internet, the Federal Government forced them to stop using that advertisement because it was totally false.

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Re: The demands ain't ever going to be
Oct 27, 2004 7:49AM PDT

Thx for prompt clarification. Apparently the Cool and Quiet AMD feature merely slows down system fan when processor idles.

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For gaming purposes one would seem to want
Oct 26, 2004 5:38AM PDT

an LCD monitor with a low reset time. About 12 Milliseconds is the fastest available [most originals were 35 milliseconds]

The TFT's are Thin Film Transistors. Transistors can be turned ON much faster than they can be turned OFF, this is the problem with TFT's for gaming. So don't get impressed by turn on time, its the 35 Ms turn off that is the problem. Not all mfr's state the spec clearly, some give the sum of on and off. read closely.

Maximum PC mag, in an earlier issue two issues ago tested a bunch of LCD Monitors for gaming use and gave ratings Usable or not.

From what I read none of the "fast" monitors seem to excel in the other things of interest re color monitors.

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Re: The AMD 64 Athlon 3000+ & The (MB) Asus K8v Delux Revie
Dec 13, 2004 3:37AM PST